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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, William Weston <weston@sysex.net>
Subject: Re: [patch] fix SMT scheduler latency bug
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:40:55 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200506230040.58846.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050622102541.GA10043@elte.hu>

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Hi

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:25, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> William Weston reported unusually high scheduling latencies on his x86
> HT box, on the -RT kernel. I managed to reproduce it on my HT box and
> the latency tracer shows the incident in action:

Thanks for picking this up. I've had a long hard look at the code and your 
patch.

> the reason for this anomaly is the following code in dependent_sleeper():
>
>                 /*
>                  * If a user task with lower static priority than the
>                  * running task on the SMT sibling is trying to schedule,
>                  * delay it till there is proportionately less timeslice
>                  * left of the sibling task to prevent a lower priority
>                  * task from using an unfair proportion of the
>                  * physical cpu's resources. -ck
>                  */
> [...]
>                         if (((smt_curr->time_slice * (100 -
> sd->per_cpu_gain) / 100) > task_timeslice(p)))
>                                         ret = 1;
>
> note that in contrast to the comment above, we dont actually do the
> check based on static priority, we do the check based on timeslices. But
> timeslices go up and down, and even highprio tasks can randomly have
> very low timeslices (just before their next refill) and can thus be
> judged as 'lowprio' by the above piece of code. 

I don't see it like that. task_timeslice(p) will always return the same value 
based purely on static priority and smt_curr->time_slice cannot ever be 
larger than task_timeslice(p) unless there is a significant enough 'nice' 
difference. It is not smt_curr that is rescheduled as a result of this test, 
it is p that is not scheduled and we look at p's task_timeslice which does 
not alter. The task that is delayed in either case is dependant on its static 
priority which will determine its task_timeslice() vs the current value of 
->time_slice on the sibling which is emptied as that task runs, and it is 
expected to fluctuate.

> This condition is 
> clearly buggy. The correct test is to check for static_prio _and_ to
> check for the preemption priority. Even on different static priority
> levels, a higher-prio interactive task should not be delayed due to a
> higher-static-prio CPU hog.

> -			if (((smt_curr->time_slice * (100 - sd->per_cpu_gain) /
> -				100) > task_timeslice(p)))
> +			if (smt_curr->static_prio < p->static_prio &&
> +				!TASK_PREEMPTS_CURR(p, smt_rq) &&
> +				smt_slice(smt_curr, sd) > task_timeslice(p))

Checking for smt_curr->static_prio < p->static_prio appears redundant to me 
because the condition can only be met if there is a significant difference in 
the different timeslice case as I mentioned above.

> +			if (TASK_PREEMPTS_CURR(p, smt_rq) &&

Is this check necessary? The proportion is supposed to be distributed 
according to static priority only.

If this code is causing large latencies then I believe it can only occur with 
different nice levels running on siblings and high priority tasks starting 
new timeslices repeatedly and never getting to the last per_cpu_gain% of 
their timeslice. Ingo do you think this might be what is being seen? If this 
truly can happen then this code will have to move to a jiffy based proportion 
as the real time code is to prevent this problem. 

Cheers,
Con

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-22 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-22 10:25 [patch] fix SMT scheduler latency bug Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 14:40 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2005-06-22 16:04   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 23:03     ` Con Kolivas
2005-06-22 23:32       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-23  0:03         ` Con Kolivas
2005-06-23 13:24           ` Con Kolivas

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