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From: Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@frankvm.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: frankvm@frankvm.com, akpm@osdl.org, aia21@cam.ac.uk,
	arjan@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FUSE merging?
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:34:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050701113408.GA5218@janus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DoJ1O-0002cu-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 12:45:22PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > 
> > > Here's a description of a theoretical DoS scenario:
> > > 
> > >   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=111522019516694&w=2
> > 
> > So the open() hangs indefinately. but what if blackhat tries to install
> > a package from a no longer existing server on /net or via NFS?
> > 
> > A user supplied pathname is not to be trusted by any setuid (or full
> > root) program.
> 
> If /net won't detect a dead server within a timeout, I think it can be
> considered broken.
> 
> > Another example: I'm not sure if there are still /dev/tty devices which
> > may block indefinately upon open() but:
> > 
> > -	I have yet to see a setuid program which always uses O_NONBLOCK
> > 	when opening user supplied pathnames.
> > -	one cannot stat() and then open() because that gives a race.
> 
> Is "being already broken" an excuse for preventing future breakage,
> when these are fixed?

All this breakage points into the same direction: A user supplied pathname
is not to be trusted by any setuid (or full root) program.

-- 
Frank

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-01 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-30  9:19 FUSE merging? Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30  9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-30  9:51   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 10:00     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-30 10:12       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 10:20         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-30 10:24           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 19:39             ` Avuton Olrich
2005-07-01  6:23               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 11:13           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-06-30 19:46             ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-30 20:00               ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01  6:40                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 22:28               ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01  6:58                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  9:24                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 10:27                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 12:00                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 12:36                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 13:05                           ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:21                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 15:20                               ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 17:04                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 18:04                                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 19:35                                     ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2005-07-02 14:49                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 16:00                                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03  6:16                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 11:25                                           ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 13:24                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 13:50                                               ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 14:03                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 14:10                                               ` FUSE merging? (2) Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 15:47                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 19:36                                                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-04  8:56                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04  9:59                                                       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-04 10:27                                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04 11:26                                                           ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01  6:36               ` FUSE merging? Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  6:50                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01  7:07                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  7:14                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01  7:27                       ` Miles Bader
2005-07-01  7:38                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  8:02                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 10:11                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 11:29                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 12:00                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 12:53                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-07-01 13:07                                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-07-01 13:51                                 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:29                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 16:45                               ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-01 12:08                             ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:21                             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 13:53                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 14:18                                 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 14:31                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 10:01                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-02 14:58                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 16:43                                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-02 17:33                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-03 19:39                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-04  8:38                             ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                               ` <20050704084900.GG15370@elf.ucw.cz>
2005-07-04  9:02                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04 10:46                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-01 12:37                   ` bert hubert
2005-07-01  7:46                 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2005-07-01  9:47                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01  9:36                 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 10:45                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 11:34                     ` Frank van Maarseveen [this message]
2005-06-30 10:16       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 16:30         ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-02 22:02 Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-02 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-03  0:34   ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-09-03  5:31   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03  6:40     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-03  7:23       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03 13:29     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-09-03 14:20       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03 15:01         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-09-03 15:38           ` Miklos Szeredi

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