From: Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@frankvm.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: frankvm@frankvm.com, akpm@osdl.org, aia21@cam.ac.uk,
arjan@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FUSE merging?
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:50:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050703135010.GA1298@janus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Dp4S4-0004ub-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:24:04PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > Hmm, do you mean returning different directory contents based on uid?
> >
> > http://clusternfs.sourceforge.net
> >
> > Don't ask me how this plays with the dcache.
>
> But here the decision on what to return is in the _server_.
It still means that name space invariancy cannot be guaranteed.
> There's
> nothing magic about that. It's as if it was N different servers for N
> different clients, only more effective.
Not entirely, there is a UID dependancy.
> I think what you call namespace invariance is basically true for all
> existing filesystems. There could be a filesystem which returns
> different directory contents based on whatever it wants, but it can't
> return a different "dentry" for the same name.
This is not what I mean. The directory contents itself must be identical
for every user. And every name must of course correspond with only one
dentry. That's name-space invariance IMO.
> > IMHO The namespace argument against FUSE is weak for multiple reasons. The
> > only variancy I see is when crossing the mount point. And that disappears
> > once EACCES is returned when non-ptraceable processes try to cross it.
>
> Yes, but still this is just a difference in permission, and not a
> difference in namespace.
Exactly. And such a difference in permission already exists for (sane)
networked file systems such as NFS with "squash_root" in effect on
the server.
--
Frank
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-03 13:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-30 9:19 FUSE merging? Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-30 9:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 10:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-30 10:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 10:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-30 10:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 19:39 ` Avuton Olrich
2005-07-01 6:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 11:13 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-06-30 19:46 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-30 20:00 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 6:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 22:28 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 6:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 9:24 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 10:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 12:00 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 12:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 13:05 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 15:20 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 17:04 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 18:04 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 19:35 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2005-07-02 14:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 16:00 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 6:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 11:25 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 13:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 13:50 ` Frank van Maarseveen [this message]
2005-07-03 14:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 14:10 ` FUSE merging? (2) Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-03 15:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-03 19:36 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-04 8:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04 9:59 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-04 10:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04 11:26 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 6:36 ` FUSE merging? Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 6:50 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 7:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 7:14 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 7:27 ` Miles Bader
2005-07-01 7:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 8:02 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 10:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 11:29 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-01 12:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 12:53 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-07-01 13:07 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-07-01 13:51 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:29 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 16:45 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-01 12:08 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 13:21 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 13:53 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 14:18 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01 14:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 10:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-02 14:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-02 16:43 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-02 17:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-03 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-04 8:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <20050704084900.GG15370@elf.ucw.cz>
2005-07-04 9:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-04 10:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-07-01 12:37 ` bert hubert
2005-07-01 7:46 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2005-07-01 9:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 9:36 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-07-01 10:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-01 11:34 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-06-30 10:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-30 16:30 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-02 22:02 Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-02 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-03 0:34 ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-09-03 5:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03 6:40 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-03 7:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03 13:29 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-09-03 14:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-09-03 15:01 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-09-03 15:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
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