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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Realtime Preemption, 2.6.12, Beginners Guide?
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:01:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050706170158.GA27797@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200507061756.20861.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>


* Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> > I'm beginning to understand the issue, and I see why you think the proposed
> > patch fixes it. I'll compile and boot V0.7.51-05 now.
> 
> Indeed, this seems to have fixed it.
> 
> ( softirq-timer/0-3    |#0): new 8 us maximum-latency wakeup.
> ( softirq-timer/0-3    |#0): new 9 us maximum-latency wakeup.
> ( softirq-timer/0-3    |#0): new 9 us maximum-latency wakeup.
> ( softirq-timer/0-3    |#0): new 9 us maximum-latency wakeup.
> ( softirq-timer/0-3    |#0): new 10 us maximum-latency wakeup.
> ( softirq-timer/0-3    |#0): new 14 us maximum-latency wakeup.

great! Do the softlockup warnings still occur?

> Find attached another trace (only 33us this time).

the main latency comes from here:

>    <...>-3485  0Dnh2   13us : enqueue_task (__schedule)
>    <...>-3485  0Dnh2   14us+: trace_array (__schedule)
>    <...>-3485  0Dnh2   18us : trace_array <softirq--3> (69 6e)
>    <...>-3485  0Dnh2   18us : trace_array <<...>-3485> (76 78)
>    <...>-3485  0Dnh2   20us+: trace_array (__schedule)
> softirq--3     0Dnh2   28us+: __switch_to (__schedule)

trace_array() can be quite expensive (it generates a trace entry of 
every runnable task, with interrupts and preemption disabled). It is 
disabled if RT_DEADLOCK_DETECT is disabled. For pure wakeup latency 
tracing, the most optimal combination of options is:

 # CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP is not set
 # CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK_SLEEP is not set
 CONFIG_WAKEUP_TIMING=y
 # CONFIG_CRITICAL_PREEMPT_TIMING is not set
 # CONFIG_CRITICAL_IRQSOFF_TIMING is not set
 CONFIG_LATENCY_TIMING=y
 CONFIG_LATENCY_TRACE=y
 CONFIG_MCOUNT=y
 # CONFIG_RT_DEADLOCK_DETECT is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_RT_LOCKING_MODE is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_KOBJECT is not set
 CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE=y
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_FS is not set
 CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y
 CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK=y
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_STACKOVERFLOW is not set
 # CONFIG_KPROBES is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_STACK_USAGE is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC is not set

such a kernel will still be able to generate /proc/latency_trace traces, 
but has much lower runtime overhead than your current kernel. (But you 
should probably keep all debugging enabled until all of the current 
problems have been resolved.)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-07  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-06 11:57 Realtime Preemption, 2.6.12, Beginners Guide? Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 12:51 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 13:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 15:58     ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 16:28       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 16:31         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 15:55   ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 16:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 16:37       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 16:56         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 17:01           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-07-06 17:14             ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 17:27               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 18:23                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 18:38                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 18:41                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 19:47                       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 20:44                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 21:00                           ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 21:02                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-06 22:15                               ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-06 23:08                                 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-07-07  6:04                                   ` Michal Schmidt
2005-07-07 10:25                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07  9:46                           ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-07 11:21                             ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-07 11:29                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 11:37                                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-07 11:42                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 12:15                                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-07 12:29                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-07 13:38                                         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-07 12:33                                       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-08  9:47                                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-08 11:46                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 18:38                                         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-08 19:12                                           ` USB storage does not work with 3GB of RAM, but does with 2G of RAM Jon Schindler
2005-07-08 19:25                                           ` Realtime Preemption, 2.6.12, Beginners Guide? Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 19:31                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 19:34                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 19:48                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 19:55                                             ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-08 20:45                                             ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-09 11:58                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 14:07                                                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-09 14:55                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 15:57                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 16:02                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 16:04                                                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-11 13:55                                                       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-11 14:12                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 14:16                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 14:38                                                             ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-11 14:43                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 15:50                                                                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-13 14:45                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-13 15:30                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-14 19:58                                                                       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-14 20:16                                                                         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-15 22:12                                                                           ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-12  2:56                                                               ` Lee Revell
2005-07-11 15:07                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-12 20:09                                                               ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 21:01                                                                 ` Chuck Harding
2005-07-13 10:39                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-13 12:29                                                                     ` Gene Heskett
2005-07-13 14:01                                                                     ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-13 19:41                                                                       ` Chuck Harding
2005-07-13 19:45                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-14 13:39                                                                           ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-14 12:50                                                                       ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-14 13:56                                                                         ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-14 14:10                                                                           ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-14 14:11                                                                             ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-14 19:49                                                                         ` Chuck Harding
2005-07-16 17:15                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-16 19:01                                                                           ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-17 12:07                                                                           ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-18 15:46                                                                             ` K.R. Foley
2005-07-19 11:14                                                                             ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-19 13:35                                                                               ` Gene Heskett
2005-07-19 13:57                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-19 15:19                                                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2005-07-19 23:00                                                                                   ` Karsten Wiese
2005-07-09 12:41                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 12:46                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 13:05                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 22:48                                                   ` William Weston
2005-07-12 13:53                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 13:13                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 13:26                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-10 19:01                                                   ` PCMCIA stack reduction patch [Was: Re: Realtime Preemption, 2.6.12, Beginners Guide?] Dominik Brodowski
2005-07-09 13:36                                                 ` Realtime Preemption, 2.6.12, Beginners Guide? Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 13:28                                                 ` Paulo Marques
2005-07-08 11:48                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-08 17:42                                         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-07-08 17:48                                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2005-07-08 18:12                                             ` Alistair John Strachan
     [not found] <20050713063310.GA12661@elte.hu>
2005-07-13 10:30 ` karsten wiese
2005-07-13 18:38   ` Chuck Harding

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