From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Kristian Benoit <kbenoit@opersys.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, bhuey@lnxw.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, karim@opersys.com, pmarques@grupopie.com,
bruce@andrew.cmu.edu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ak@muc.de,
sdietrich@mvista.com, dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org,
akpm@osdl.org, rpm@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: PREEMPT_RT and I-PIPE: the numbers, part 4
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:24:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050711052413.GA13293@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42CF05BE.3070908@opersys.com>
* Kristian Benoit <kbenoit@opersys.com> wrote:
[...]
> "plain" run:
>
> Measurements | Vanilla | preempt_rt | ipipe
> ---------------+-------------+----------------+-------------
> fork | 97us | 91us (-6%) | 101us (+4%)
> mmap | 776us | 629us (-19%) | 794us (+2%)
some of you have wondered how it's possible that the PREEMPT_RT kernel
is _faster_ than the vanilla kernel in these two metrics.
I've done some more profiling, and one reason is kmap_atomic(). As i
pointed out in an earlier mail, in your tests you not only had HIGHMEM64
enabled, but also HIGHPTE, which is a heavy kmap_atomic() user. [and
which is an option meant for systems with 8GB or more RAM, not the
typical embedded target.]
kmap_atomic() is a pretty preemption-unfriendly per-CPU construct, which
under PREEMPT_RT had to be changed and was mapped into kmap(). The
performance advantage comes from the caching built into kmap() and not
having to do per-page invlpg calls. (which can be pretty slow,
expecially on highmem64) The 'mapping kmap_atomic into kmap' technique
is perfectly fine under PREEMPT_RT because all kernel code is
preemptible, but it's not really possible in the vanilla kernel due to
the fundamental non-preemptability of interrupts, the preempt-off-ness
of the mmu_gather mechanism, the atomicity of the ->page_table_lock
spinlock, etc.
so this is a case of 'fully preemptible beats non-preemptible due to
flexibility', but it should be more of an exception than the rule,
because generally the fully preemptible kernel tries to be 1:1 identical
to the vanilla kernel. But it's an interesting phenomenon from a
conceptual angle nevertheless.
Ingo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-11 5:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-08 23:01 PREEMPT_RT and I-PIPE: the numbers, part 4 Kristian Benoit
2005-07-09 1:28 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-09 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-09 15:39 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-09 15:53 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-09 15:53 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-11 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 11:25 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-09 17:22 ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-09 23:37 ` Bill Huey
2005-07-09 9:01 ` Paul Rolland
2005-07-09 14:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-09 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-11 5:24 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
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