From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
Cc: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, varap@us.ibm.com,
richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Merging relayfs?
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:30:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050712043056.GC2363@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42D33E99.7030101@opersys.com>
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 11:52:57PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote:
>
> Greg KH wrote:
> > Based on the proposed users of this fs, I don't see any. What ones are
> > you saying are not "debug" type operations? And yes, I consider LTT a
> > "debug" type operation :)
> >
> > The best part of this, is it gives distros and users a consistant place
> > to mount the fs, and to know where this kind of thing shows up in the fs
> > namespace.
>
> Except that relayfs contains files that all behave in a very specific
> way: as relayfs buffers, while debugfs may contain a variety of different
> types of files.
The path/filename dictates how it is used, so putting relayfs type files
in debugfs is just fine. debugfs allows any types of files to be there.
> I kind'a see what you're trying to say, and I fully understand that some
> debugfs users may indeed use the relayfs fileops to add an entry in
> debugfs which serves as a buffer, and that's the very reason we exported
> them to boot.
Good.
> But there's something to be said about having a single filesystem (and
> therefore tree somewhere in /)
New trees in / are not LSB compliant, hence the reason for writing
securityfs to get rid of /selinux and other LSM filesystems that were
starting to sprout up.
> which contains entries dedicated to a single purpose: dump huge
> amounts of data out of the kernel and into userspace whether or not
> the system is being debuged.
But that's exactly what debugfs is for, to allow data to be dumped out
of the kernel for different usages.
> From a user point of view, it sounds awfully weird if they're using
> "debugfs" on a production system ...
Ok, have a better name for it? It's simple and easy to understand.
> > Last I looked, this was not possible. Has this changed in the latest
> > version?
>
> Here's from 2.6.13-rc2-mm1 fs/relayfs/inode.c
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(relayfs_open);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(relayfs_poll);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(relayfs_mmap);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(relayfs_release);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(relayfs_file_operations);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(relayfs_create_dir);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(relayfs_remove_dir);
>
> It's been there ever since you've asked for it earlier this year :)
Thanks, didn't realize that. Wait, all that should be needed is
"relayfs_file_operations", right? Why have those others exported?
thanks,
greg k-h
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-12 1:10 Merging relayfs? Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 1:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:17 ` Dave Airlie
2005-07-12 2:22 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 9:12 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 2:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 2:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:59 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-14 13:26 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-14 15:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 14:04 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-17 15:52 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 5:17 ` Hareesh Nagarajan
2005-07-18 14:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 14:16 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-18 15:20 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 15:58 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 23:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-23 2:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-26 2:35 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 15:06 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:41 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 8:40 ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-12 13:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 3:05 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:03 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 3:24 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 4:30 ` Greg KH [this message]
2005-07-12 4:40 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 5:23 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:36 ` Steve Rotolo
2005-07-12 3:55 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 4:27 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:21 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 15:30 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 15:16 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 15:44 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 16:27 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 17:23 ` Tom Zanussi
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2005-07-12 19:29 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 20:44 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-12 21:02 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 12:40 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:04 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:22 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 4:29 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 13:47 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:55 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-13 15:56 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:58 ` Jason Baron
2005-07-12 15:26 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 15:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:08 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:36 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 21:38 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 23:55 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-13 0:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-16 21:07 ` relayfs documentation sucks? bert hubert
2005-07-16 23:13 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 9:01 ` [PATCH] " bert hubert
2005-07-17 15:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 19:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-17 20:47 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-20 21:27 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-20 21:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-21 0:31 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:33 ` relayfs as infrastructure, ltt, systemtap, diskstat bert hubert
2005-07-23 18:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-23 18:53 ` [PATCH] Re: relayfs documentation sucks? Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-25 23:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-26 5:15 ` bert hubert
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2005-07-12 4:36 ` Merging relayfs? Andi Kleen
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2005-07-13 8:13 Spirakis, Charles
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