From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>,
azarah@nosferatu.za.org, akpm@osdl.org, cw@f00f.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
christoph@lameter.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386: Selectable Frequency of the Timer Interrupt
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:10:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050712121008.GA7804@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42D310ED.2000407@mvista.com>
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 05:38:05PM -0700, George Anzinger wrote:
> I would like to interject an addition data point, and I will NOT be
> subjective. The nature of the PIT is that it can _hit_ some frequencies
> better than others. We have had complaints about repeating timers not
> keeping good time. These are not jitter issues, but drift issues. The
> standard says we may not return early from a timer so any timer will either
> be on time or late. The amount of lateness depends very much on the HZ
> value. Here is what the values are for the standard CLOCK_TICK_RATE:
>
> HZ TICK RATE jiffie(ns) second(ns) error (ppbillion)
> 100 1193180 10000000 1000000000 0
> 200 1193180 5000098 1000019600 19600
> 250 1193180 4000250 1000062500 62500
> 500 1193180 1999703 1001851203 1851203
> 1000 1193180 999848 1000847848 847848
>
> The jiffie values here are exactly what the kernel uses and are based on
> the best one can do with the PIT hardware.
The PIT crystal runs at 14.3181818 MHz (CGA dotclock, found on ISA, ...)
and is divided by 12 to get PIT tick rate
14.3181818 MHz / 12 = 1193182 Hz
The reality is that the crystal is usually off by 50-100 ppm from the
standard value, depending on temperature.
HZ ticks/jiffie 1 second error (ppm)
---------------------------------------------------
100 11932 1.000015238 15.2
200 5966 1.000015238 15.2
250 4773 1.000057143 57.1
300 3977 0.999931429 -68.6
333 3583 0.999964114 -35.9
500 2386 0.999847619 -152.4
1000 1193 0.999847619 -152.4
Some HZ values indeed fit the tick frequency better than others, up to
333 the error is lost in the physical error of the crystal, for 500 and
1000, it definitely is larger, and thus noticeable.
Some (less round and nice) values of HZ would fit even better:
HZ ticks/jiffie 1 second error (ppm)
---------------------------------------------------
82 14551 1.000000152 0.2
96 12429 1.000001829 1.8
209 5709 0.999999314 -0.7
363 3287 0.999999314 -0.7
519 2299 0.999999314 -0.7
864 1381 1.000001829 1.8
--
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR
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2005-07-08 21:49 ` [PATCH] i386: Selectable Frequency of the Timer Interrupt Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-08 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-08 22:05 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-08 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-10 10:45 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-07-08 22:22 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-08 22:33 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-08 22:59 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-08 23:03 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-08 23:14 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-08 23:29 ` David S. Miller
2005-07-08 23:40 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-09 17:08 ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-07-09 18:16 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-09 18:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-09 18:33 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-09 18:36 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-09 19:12 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-09 19:16 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-09 20:30 ` randy_dunlap
2005-07-09 21:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-09 23:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2005-07-11 18:35 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-11 13:23 ` Alan Cox
2005-07-11 14:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-07-11 14:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-11 15:18 ` Alan Cox
2005-07-12 2:13 ` Eric St-Laurent
2005-07-11 16:02 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-15 12:17 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-13 15:59 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-13 16:47 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-10 0:44 ` pmarques
2005-07-09 18:39 ` Diego Calleja
2005-07-09 18:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-09 18:49 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-09 18:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-11 18:38 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-11 20:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-11 20:39 ` Chris Friesen
2005-07-12 0:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 4:07 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-12 4:13 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 4:30 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-12 14:21 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 14:24 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 14:56 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-12 15:00 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 15:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-12 15:10 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 15:22 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-12 19:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 20:58 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-12 22:22 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-13 5:37 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13 10:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-13 18:42 ` High irq load (Re: [PATCH] i386: Selectable Frequency of the Timer Interrupt) Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 14:25 ` Peter Osterlund
2005-07-18 5:53 ` Herbert Poetzl
2005-07-12 0:38 ` [PATCH] i386: Selectable Frequency of the Timer Interrupt George Anzinger
2005-07-12 12:10 ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2005-07-12 12:39 ` Con Kolivas
2005-07-12 12:52 ` Con Kolivas
2005-07-12 15:57 ` George Anzinger
2005-07-12 16:27 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-13 16:26 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-13 16:46 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13 17:24 ` David Lang
2005-07-13 18:42 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-13 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-13 19:13 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13 19:32 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-13 19:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-13 20:02 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-07-13 20:17 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13 20:24 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13 20:48 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-13 21:16 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-13 21:24 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13 21:35 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-13 21:37 ` Chris Friesen
2005-07-13 21:56 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-13 23:07 ` George Anzinger
2005-07-13 21:29 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-13 21:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-13 23:41 ` dean gaudet
2005-07-14 0:07 ` Petr Vandrovec
2005-07-14 9:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-14 14:20 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-14 18:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-14 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 0:51 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-14 1:13 ` dean gaudet
2005-07-14 1:33 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-14 1:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 7:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-14 12:13 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-14 16:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 17:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-14 17:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 19:09 ` Russell King
2005-07-14 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 20:30 ` Russell King
2005-07-15 8:15 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-07-14 20:38 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2005-07-14 17:42 ` Al Boldi
2005-07-14 19:42 ` john stultz
2005-07-14 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 20:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-14 23:03 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-07-14 21:54 ` john stultz
2005-07-14 22:43 ` Alan Cox
2005-07-14 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-15 12:33 ` Alan Cox
2005-07-14 17:10 ` Chris Friesen
2005-07-14 17:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 19:18 ` john stultz
2005-07-14 22:37 ` Alan Cox
2005-07-14 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 23:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-15 1:17 ` Eric St-Laurent
2005-07-14 23:17 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-14 23:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 23:41 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-14 23:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-14 23:53 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-15 12:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-14 23:57 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-15 2:30 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-07-15 12:46 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-15 16:46 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-07-30 5:49 ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.13 Len Brown
2005-07-30 9:58 ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
2005-08-03 23:16 ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.13-rc5 Len Brown
2005-08-04 17:11 ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.13-rc5+ Len Brown
2005-08-15 20:35 ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patch for 2.6.13-rc6 Len Brown
2005-07-14 23:50 ` [PATCH] i386: Selectable Frequency of the Timer Interrupt Lee Revell
2005-07-15 4:08 ` Con Kolivas
2005-07-15 4:17 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-15 4:54 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-15 16:59 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-15 14:51 ` kernel
2005-07-14 18:00 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-14 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-14 14:55 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-14 15:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-14 15:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-15 11:38 ` [OT] high precision hardware (was Re: [PATCH] i386: Selectable Frequency of the Timer Interrupt) Paul Jakma
2005-07-15 15:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-15 16:13 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-14 2:08 ` [PATCH] i386: Selectable Frequency of the Timer Interrupt Lee Revell
2005-07-14 9:56 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-15 0:04 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-15 0:15 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-15 0:17 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-15 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-15 8:41 ` Russell King
2005-07-15 0:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-15 1:40 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-15 2:00 ` Eric St-Laurent
2005-07-15 19:58 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-07-16 5:16 ` Eric St-Laurent
2005-07-15 2:07 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-15 9:36 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-15 3:46 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-15 5:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-15 13:12 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-17 2:13 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-17 2:35 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-17 2:35 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-07-17 3:55 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-23 23:40 ` randy_dunlap
2005-07-25 13:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-23 23:48 ` randy_dunlap
2005-07-23 23:52 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-07-24 12:58 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-15 8:44 ` Russell King
2005-07-15 15:41 ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-13 20:02 ` Diego Calleja
2005-07-13 19:35 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-07-13 19:41 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-13 19:53 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-07-14 10:04 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-13 19:52 ` George Anzinger
2005-07-13 23:54 ` Con Kolivas
2005-07-14 0:43 ` George Anzinger
2005-07-14 10:25 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-07-14 12:19 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-14 21:19 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-07-15 1:19 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-12 13:30 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-12 14:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-12 16:07 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-12 15:26 ` [PATCH] " Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-12 17:50 ` john stultz
2005-07-12 22:30 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-12 17:56 ` john stultz
2005-07-12 0:45 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-11 13:18 ` Alan Cox
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2005-07-15 17:02 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 17:23 ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2005-07-15 17:54 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-15 17:58 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-18 10:47 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-15 18:01 ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2005-07-18 11:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-07-15 17:57 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 18:09 ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2005-07-15 16:33 Brown, Len
2005-07-15 16:54 ` Chris Wedgwood
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2005-07-15 9:37 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-05-16 19:45 christoph
2005-05-16 20:51 ` Lee Revell
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2005-05-17 23:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-17 23:48 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-05-18 0:03 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-18 0:08 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-16 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-17 2:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-17 2:46 ` randy_dunlap
2005-05-17 2:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-17 3:01 ` randy_dunlap
2005-05-17 3:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-17 3:40 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 10:51 ` Paulo Marques
2005-05-17 13:19 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 5:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-17 13:44 ` Joe Korty
2005-05-17 13:58 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 15:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-18 18:50 ` Pavel Machek
2005-05-18 19:03 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-18 20:41 ` Tony Lindgren
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