From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261862AbVGOVrF (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:47:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262027AbVGOVrF (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:47:05 -0400 Received: from fmr17.intel.com ([134.134.136.16]:2184 "EHLO orsfmr002.jf.intel.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261862AbVGOVq7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:46:59 -0400 From: Mark Gross Organization: Intel To: Andi Kleen , Jesper Juhl Subject: Re: Why is 2.6.12.2 less stable on my laptop than 2.6.10? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:33:45 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 Cc: Chris Friesen , Andi Kleen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200507140912.22532.mgross@linux.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <9a8748490507141906fb7e5b@mail.gmail.com> <20050715020914.GQ23737@wotan.suse.de> In-Reply-To: <20050715020914.GQ23737@wotan.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507151433.46023.mgross@linux.intel.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday 14 July 2005 19:09, Andi Kleen wrote: > > You can't test everything this way, nor should you, but you can test > > many things, and adding a bit of formal testing to the release > > procedure wouldn't be a bad thing IMO. > > In the linux model that's left to the distributions. In fact doing it > properly takes months. You wouldn't want to wait months for a new mainline > kernel. > > Formal testing is not really compatible with "release early, release often" > This is true. I think we are seeing the effects of releasing more often than we should be into a "stable" tree. Early and Often make sence for developing new features, but should they be pushed into a stable release so often? > You could do things like "run LTP first", but in practice LTP rarely finds > bugs. > > -Andi -- --mgross BTW: This may or may not be the opinion of my employer, more likely not.