From: bert hubert <bert.hubert@netherlabs.nl>
To: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, karim@opersys.com,
varap@us.ibm.com, richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com,
relayfs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: relayfs documentation sucks?
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:45:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050717194558.GC27353@outpost.ds9a.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17114.31916.451621.501383@tut.ibm.com>
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 10:43:40AM -0500, Tom Zanussi wrote:
> It is racey - in this mode, there's nothing to keep the kernel from
> writing as much as it wants before the user side has a chance to read
> any of it. The only way this can be used safely is to make sure the
> kernel side isn't writing anything when the client is reading. This
> would be typical of a flight-recording usage i.e. kernel writes a
> bunch of data continuously, then stops and allows the client to read
> whatever's in there.
Or by numbering entries written out, when in flight-recording mode you
wouldn't want to block the kernel.
> > In fact, it appears this might even happen in non-overwrite mode.
>
> It shouldn't ever be able to happen in non-overwrite mode - if it
> did, it would be a bug. Can you be more specific as to how you see
> this happening in this mode?
Yeah - you're right. The misunderstanding is because in both cases
(overwrite and non-overwrite) data is lost, except that in one case you lose
old data, and in the other new data.
It might be a good idea to document this as well.
Btw, I've already uncovered interesting things using relayfs, but I still
don't see the case for having it merged :-)
Thanks for your answers, I think I get it all now.
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-12 1:10 Merging relayfs? Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 1:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:17 ` Dave Airlie
2005-07-12 2:22 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 9:12 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 2:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-12 2:34 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-12 2:59 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-14 13:26 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-14 15:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 14:04 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-17 15:52 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 5:17 ` Hareesh Nagarajan
2005-07-18 14:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 14:16 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-18 15:20 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 15:58 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-22 23:19 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-23 2:31 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-26 2:35 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-22 20:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-18 15:06 ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-18 14:41 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 8:40 ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-12 13:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 3:05 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:03 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 3:24 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 3:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 4:30 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 4:40 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-12 5:23 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:36 ` Steve Rotolo
2005-07-12 3:55 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 4:27 ` Greg KH
2005-07-12 14:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:21 ` Baruch Even
2005-07-12 15:30 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 15:16 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 15:44 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 16:27 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 17:23 ` Tom Zanussi
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2005-07-12 19:29 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 20:44 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-12 21:02 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 12:40 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:04 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:22 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 4:29 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 13:47 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-13 15:55 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-13 15:56 ` Vara Prasad
2005-07-13 16:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-07-12 14:58 ` Jason Baron
2005-07-12 15:26 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 15:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:08 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 16:36 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 16:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 17:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 21:38 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-12 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-12 23:55 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-13 0:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-16 21:07 ` relayfs documentation sucks? bert hubert
2005-07-16 23:13 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 9:01 ` [PATCH] " bert hubert
2005-07-17 15:43 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-17 19:45 ` bert hubert [this message]
2005-07-17 20:47 ` Tom Zanussi
2005-07-18 13:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-07-20 21:27 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-20 21:45 ` bert hubert
2005-07-21 0:31 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-22 20:33 ` relayfs as infrastructure, ltt, systemtap, diskstat bert hubert
2005-07-23 18:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-23 18:53 ` [PATCH] Re: relayfs documentation sucks? Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-25 23:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-26 5:15 ` bert hubert
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