From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Alejandro Bonilla <abonilla@linuxwireless.org>
Cc: Martin MOKREJ <mmokrejs@ribosome.natur.cuni.cz>,
Mark Nipper <nipsy@bitgnome.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Giving developers clue how many testers verified certain kernel version
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:22:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050722232223.GC3160@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42E05CAB.9020703@linuxwireless.org>
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:40:43PM -0500, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
>...
> How does one check if hotplug is working better than before? How do
> I test the fact that a performance issue seen in the driver is now fixed
> for me or most of users? How do I get back to a bugzilla and tell that
> there is a bug somewhere when one can't really know if that is the way
> it works but is simply ugly, or if there is really a bug?
>
> My point is that a user like me, can't really get back to this
> mailing list and say "hey, since 2.6.13-rc1, my PCI bus is having an
> additional 1ms of latency" We don't really have a process to follow and
> then be able to say "ahha, so this is different" and then report the
> problem, even if we can't fix it because of our C and kernel skills.
>
> How do we know that something is OK or wrong? just by the fact that
> it works or not, it doesn't mean like is OK.
>
> There has to be a process for any user to be able to verify and study a
> problem. We don't have that yet.
If the user doesn't notice the difference then there's no problem for
him.
If there's a problem the user notices, then the process is to send an
email to linux-kernel and/or open a bug in the kernel Bugzilla and
follow the "please send the output of foo" and "please test patch bar"
instructions.
What comes nearest to what you are talking about is that you run LTP
and/or various benchmarks against every -git and every -mm kernel and
report regressions. But this is sinply a task someone could do (and I
don't know how much of it is already done e.g. at OSDL), and not
something every user could contribute to.
> .Alejandro
cu
Adrian
--
"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-22 23:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-22 1:34 Giving developers clue how many testers verified certain kernel version Martin MOKREJŠ
2005-07-22 2:10 ` Mark Nipper
2005-07-22 2:38 ` Martin MOKREJŠ
2005-07-22 2:40 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-22 23:22 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2005-07-22 23:11 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-24 18:45 ` Martin MOKREJŠ
2005-07-24 18:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-24 19:10 ` Martin MOKREJŠ
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-23 0:44 Blaisorblade
2005-07-23 0:50 ` David Lang
2005-07-23 0:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-23 1:07 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-23 3:09 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-23 2:15 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-23 3:21 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-23 2:34 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-23 3:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-07-23 2:40 ` Alejandro Bonilla
2005-07-23 3:34 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-23 9:05 ` Con Kolivas
2005-07-23 16:45 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-23 3:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-07-23 9:21 ` Jesper Krogh
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