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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	domen@coderock.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	clucas@rotomalug.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add schedule_timeout_{interruptible,uninterruptible}{,_msecs}() interfaces
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:37:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050723163753.GC4951@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0507231340070.3743@scrub.home>

On 23.07.2005 [13:55:58 +0200], Roman Zippel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 
> > > What's wrong with using jiffies? 
> > 
> > A lot of the (driver) users want a wallclock based timeout. For that,
> > miliseconds is a more obvious API with less chance to get the jiffies/HZ
> > conversion wrong by the driver writer.
> 
> We have helper functions for that. The point about using jiffies is to 
> make it _very_ clear, that the timeout is imprecise and for most users 
> this is sufficient.

We do have helper functions for human-time <-> jiffies (I keep adding
new ones :) ). But why not, instead of

	set_current_state(TASK_{,UN}INTERRUPTIBLE);
	schedule_timeout(msecs_to_jiffies(some_constant_msecs));

just have an interface that allows

	schedule_timeout_msecs_{,un}interruptible(some_constant_msecs);

and push the jiffies conversion to common code?

There are some 300 or so users of schedule_timeout() in 2.6.12. I would
say about half are doing something along the lines of

	set_current_state(TASK_{,UN}INTERRUPTIBLE);
	schedule_timeout(HZ/some_constant);

These would be replaced with

	schedule_timeout_msecs_{,un}interruptible(1000/some_constant);

I would *not* be changing the callers that do

	set_current_state(TASK_{,UN}INTERRUPTIBLE);
	schedule_timeout(some_other_constant);

even though I think most of these are 2.4 remnants that don't need
short, e.g.  1 or 2 timer interrupt, sleeps, but actually can use a 10
or 20 millisecond (HZ=100, 1 or 2 jiffies) sleep.

This emphasizes another advantage of adding these new interfaces, the
delay requested does not change with HZ. Internally it does, certainly,
but the callers don't need to know that :)

Thanks,
Nish

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-23 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-07 21:31 [patch 1/4] drivers/char/ip2/i2lib.c: replace direct assignment with set_current_state() domen
2005-07-08 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-08 23:22   ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-07-23  0:27   ` [PATCH] Add schedule_timeout_{interruptible,uninterruptible}{,_msecs}() interfaces Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-23  0:31     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-23  1:08       ` [UPDATE PATCH] Add schedule_timeout_{interruptible,uninterruptible}_msecs() interfaces Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-23  2:30         ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-23 16:23           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-23 10:50       ` [PATCH] Add schedule_timeout_{interruptible,uninterruptible}{,_msecs}() interfaces Roman Zippel
2005-07-23 11:09         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-23 11:55           ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-23 12:51             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-23 13:04               ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-23 13:12                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-23 13:29                   ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-23 13:32                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-07-23 15:56                       ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-23 16:44                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-23 16:43                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-23 17:17                   ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-23 19:10                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-23 20:12                       ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-27 22:29                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-30 23:35                           ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-01 19:35                             ` [UPDATE PATCH] Add schedule_timeout_{intr,unintr}{,_msecs}() interfaces Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-03 14:20                               ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-04  0:51                                 ` [PATCH] push rounding up of relative request to schedule_timeout() Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-04  5:14                                   ` [UPDATE PATCH] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-04 16:45                                     ` George Anzinger
2005-08-04 18:48                                       ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-08-16 23:05                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-17  0:39                                         ` George Anzinger
2005-08-17  5:56                                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-17 19:51                                             ` George Anzinger
2005-08-17 22:24                                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-04 17:05                                     ` George Anzinger
2005-08-04 18:49                                       ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-08-04  9:38                                   ` [PATCH] " Roman Zippel
2005-08-04 14:33                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-04 18:59                                       ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-04 19:11                                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-04 23:20                                           ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-04 17:08                                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-04 19:00                                       ` [PATCH] add schedule_timeout_{,un}intr() interfaces Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-08-05  7:38                                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-07-23 16:37             ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2005-07-23 17:01               ` [PATCH] Add schedule_timeout_{interruptible,uninterruptible}{,_msecs}() interfaces Roman Zippel
2005-07-23 19:06                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-07-23 20:22                   ` Roman Zippel
2005-07-23 16:30         ` Nishanth Aravamudan

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