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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Heads up for distro folks: PCMCIA hotplug differences (Re: -rc4: arm broken?)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:48:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050801074831.A677@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1122858068.15622.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 02:01:07AM +0100

On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 02:01:07AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sad, 2005-07-30 at 22:36 +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > Since PCMCIA cards are detected and drivers bound at boot time, we no
> > longer get hotplug events to setup networking for PCMCIA network cards
> > already inserted.  Consequently, if you are relying on /sbin/hotplug to
> > setup your PCMCIA network card at boot time, triggered by the cardmgr
> > startup binding the driver, it won't happen.
> 
> So eth0 now randomly changes between on board and PCMCIA depending upon
> whether the PCMCIA card was inserted or not, and your disks re-order
> themselves in the same situation. That'll be funny if anyone does a
> mkswap to share their swap between Linux and Windows. Gosh look there
> goes the root partition.
> 
> I'm hoping thats not what you are implying. Especially for disks,
> network is much much less of an issue.

If you have the socket driver as a module, as some (most?) distros do,
then of course such cards won't be detected at boot time.  If PCMCIA
and the socket driver are built-in, along with the card driver, then
I guess this possibility may well exist - it does for NE2K cards.

Since I don't use CF cards with PCMCIA here, I can't say what the ide-cs
behaviour actually is.  This is why I'm trying to encourage folk to
explore the kernels new behaviour.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 Serial core

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-01  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-30 13:04 -rc4: arm broken? Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 16:13 ` Russell King
2005-07-30 16:45 ` Richard Purdie
2005-07-30 19:02   ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 19:15   ` Russell King
2005-07-30 19:18     ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 21:36     ` Heads up for distro folks: PCMCIA hotplug differences (Re: -rc4: arm broken?) Russell King
2005-07-30 21:41       ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 21:55         ` Russell King
2005-07-30 22:30           ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 22:43             ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-07-30 22:17       ` Grant Coady
2005-07-30 22:26         ` Russell King
2005-07-30 23:31           ` Richard Purdie
2005-08-01  1:01       ` Alan Cox
2005-08-01  6:48         ` Russell King [this message]
2005-08-01 12:16           ` [PATCH] pcmcia: defer ide-cs initialization after other IDE drivers started up [Was: Re: Heads up for distro folks: PCMCIA hotplug differences (Re: -rc4: arm broken?)] Dominik Brodowski

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