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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: vatsa@in.ibm.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ck@vds.kolivas.org,
	tony@atomide.com, tuukka.tikkanen@elektrobit.com,
	george@mvista.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386 No-Idle-Hz aka Dynamic-Ticks 3
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:08:43 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200508052308.44313.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050805123754.GA1262@in.ibm.com>

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 22:37, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 06:05:28AM +0000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > This is the dynamic ticks patch for i386 as written by Tony Lindgen
> > <tony@atomide.com> and Tuukka Tikkanen <tuukka.tikkanen@elektrobit.com>.
> > Patch for 2.6.13-rc5
> >
> > There were a couple of things that I wanted to change so here is an
> > updated version. This code should have stabilised enough for general
> > testing now.
>
> Con,
> 	I have been looking at some of the requirement of tickless idle CPUs in
> core kernel areas like scheduler and RCU. Basically, both power management
> and virtualization benefit if idle CPUs can cut off useless timer ticks.
> Especially from a virtualization standpoint, I think it makes sense that we
> enable this feature on a per-CPU basis i.e let individual CPUs cut off
> their ticks as and when they become idle. The benefit of this is more
> visible in platforms that host lot of (SMP) VMs on the same machine. Most
> of the time, these VMs may be partially idle (some CPUs in it are idle,
> some not) and it is good that we quiesce the timer ticks on the partial set
> of idle CPUs. Both S390 and Xen ports of Linux kernel have this ability
> today (S390 has it in mainline already and Xen has it out of tree).

Hi Srivatsa.

Thanks very much for your comments. The actual codebase for dynticks I've 
never staked any claim to as it isn't mine. The demand for such a feature in 
the kernel on multiple architectures appears to have reached critical mass 
with mainline now considering another Hz change. This is why I decided to 
champion this patch at this time by polishing and tweaking it (in purely 
cosmetic ways). I mostly agree with your comments about limitations of this 
patch and would like to see changes like those you describe done in an 
arch-neutral fashion as well. I have not the hardware resources to develop 
such code and would be more than happy if have generated enough interest in 
dynticks for you to develop it further via whatever means. Knowing arm and 
S390 already have dynticks makes it more important that cross-arch code is 
consolidated sooner rather than later.

Cheers,
Con

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-05 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-03  5:59 [PATCH] i386 No-Idle-Hz aka Dynamic-Ticks 3 Con Kolivas
2005-08-03 11:54 ` Jan De Luyck
2005-08-03 12:14   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-03 14:23     ` Jan De Luyck
2005-08-04 15:03       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-08-05  5:12         ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-03 19:20 ` Jim MacBaine
2005-08-03 21:16   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-03 22:22     ` Jim MacBaine
2005-08-03 22:52       ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-04  5:34         ` Jim MacBaine
2005-08-04  6:59           ` Jim MacBaine
2005-08-04  7:04             ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-04  7:12               ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-04  7:29                 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-10 20:04             ` Bill Davidsen
2005-08-14 19:47         ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-15  1:43           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-08-15 12:52             ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-15 15:39               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-08-03 19:54 ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-08-03 20:07   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-08-03 21:13   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-03 23:22 ` Christian Leber
2005-08-04 16:25   ` Marc Ballarin
2005-08-04  5:09 ` Jan De Luyck
2005-08-04  5:07   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-04  5:34     ` Jan De Luyck
2005-08-04 21:15 ` [PATCH] Timer Top was: " Daniel Petrini
2005-08-05  4:05   ` [PATCH] Timer Top tweaks Con Kolivas
2005-08-05  6:46   ` [ck] [PATCH] Timer Top was: i386 No-Idle-Hz aka Dynamic-Ticks 3 Jens Axboe
2005-08-05 12:39     ` Daniel Petrini
2005-08-05 13:55       ` Daniel Petrini
2005-08-04 21:44 ` [PATCH] " Adrian Bunk
2005-08-04 22:12 ` Marc Ballarin
2005-08-05  0:31   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-05  1:30 ` Paul
2005-08-05  3:25   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-05 12:37 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-05 13:08   ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2005-08-05 16:39     ` [PATCH] i386 No-Idle-Hz aka Dynamic-Ticks 4 Con Kolivas
2005-08-06 17:47       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-08-07  5:12         ` [PATCH] i386 No-Idle-Hz aka Dynamic-Ticks 5 Con Kolivas
2005-08-07 16:58           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-07 23:51             ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-08  1:20               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-08  1:30                 ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-08  1:45                   ` [ck] " Gabriel Devenyi
2005-08-08  2:44                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-08  7:05                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-08-08  7:38             ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-08 15:06               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-09 19:36             ` George Anzinger
2005-08-10 14:05               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-10 22:37                 ` George Anzinger
2005-08-11 21:33                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-08-12 15:13                     ` George Anzinger
2005-08-08 15:08           ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-08-08 15:16             ` Daniel Petrini
2005-08-08  7:26   ` [PATCH] i386 No-Idle-Hz aka Dynamic-Ticks 3 Tony Lindgren
2005-08-08 14:54     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-08 15:20       ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-09 14:22         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-08-10  7:46           ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-09 20:05     ` George Anzinger
2005-08-09 20:22       ` Daniel Petrini
2005-08-10  8:02       ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-10 22:40         ` George Anzinger

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