From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@istop.com>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, John B?ckstrand <sandos@home.se>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: lockups with netconsole on e1000 on media insertion
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 11:37:25 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200508061137.26281.phillips@istop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050806012219.GZ8074@waste.org>
On Saturday 06 August 2005 11:22, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 01:51:22AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > But why are we in a hurry to dump the backlog on the floor? Why are we
> > > worrying about the performance of netpoll without the cable plugged in
> > > at all? We shouldn't be optimizing the data loss case.
> >
> > Because a system shouldn't stall for minutes (or forever like right now)
> > at boot just because the network cable isn't plugged in.
>
> Using netconsole without a network cable could well be classified as a
> serious configuration error.
But please don't. An OS that slows to a crawl or crashes because a cable
isn't plugged in an OS that deserves to be ridiculed. Silly timeouts on boot
are scary and a waste of user's time.
Regards,
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-06 1:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2005-08-05 11:45 ` lockups with netconsole on e1000 on media insertion Andi Kleen
2005-08-05 12:44 ` John Bäckstrand
2005-08-05 13:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-05 13:55 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-05 14:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-05 14:14 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-05 14:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-05 14:36 ` David S. Miller
2005-08-05 15:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-05 14:36 ` [PATCH] netpoll can lock up on low memory Steven Rostedt
2005-08-05 20:01 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-05 20:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-05 21:28 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-06 0:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-06 1:53 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-06 2:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-06 7:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-08-06 7:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-06 23:10 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-06 9:46 ` David S. Miller
2005-08-06 9:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-06 12:09 ` John Bäckstrand
2005-08-07 5:40 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-05 21:26 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-05 21:42 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-05 21:51 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-06 1:16 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-06 0:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-06 7:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-06 11:29 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-07 21:12 ` lockups with netconsole on e1000 on media insertion John Bäckstrand
2005-08-08 2:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-05 20:12 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-05 21:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-05 23:20 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-05 23:51 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-06 1:22 ` Matt Mackall
2005-08-06 1:37 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2005-08-05 11:04 John Bäckstrand
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