From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262302AbVHFBh1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Aug 2005 21:37:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262294AbVHFBh0 (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Aug 2005 21:37:26 -0400 Received: from smtp.istop.com ([66.11.167.126]:452 "EHLO smtp.istop.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261862AbVHFBhY (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Aug 2005 21:37:24 -0400 From: Daniel Phillips To: Matt Mackall Subject: Re: lockups with netconsole on e1000 on media insertion Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 11:37:25 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Cc: Andi Kleen , John B?ckstrand , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org References: <42F347D2.7000207@home.se.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <20050805235122.GI8266@wotan.suse.de> <20050806012219.GZ8074@waste.org> In-Reply-To: <20050806012219.GZ8074@waste.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200508061137.26281.phillips@istop.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Saturday 06 August 2005 11:22, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 01:51:22AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > But why are we in a hurry to dump the backlog on the floor? Why are we > > > worrying about the performance of netpoll without the cable plugged in > > > at all? We shouldn't be optimizing the data loss case. > > > > Because a system shouldn't stall for minutes (or forever like right now) > > at boot just because the network cable isn't plugged in. > > Using netconsole without a network cable could well be classified as a > serious configuration error. But please don't. An OS that slows to a crawl or crashes because a cable isn't plugged in an OS that deserves to be ridiculed. Silly timeouts on boot are scary and a waste of user's time. Regards, Daniel