From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Mitchell Blank Jr <mitch@sfgoth.com>,
dtor_core@ameritech.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:47:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050807184756.GA1024@openzaurus.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e47339105080506325d93f431@mail.gmail.com>
Hi!
> > > > Could you tell me why you don't just fail the operation if malformed
> > > > input is supplied?
> > >
> > > Leading/trailing white space should be allowed. For example echo
> > > appends '\n' unless you know to use -n. It is easier to fix the kernel
> > > than to teach everyone to use -n.
> >
> > Please, NO! echo -n is the right thing to do, and users will eventually learn.
> > We are not going to add such workarounds all over the kernel...
>
> It is not a work around. These are text attributes meant for human
> use. Humans have a hard time cleaning up things they can't see. And
> the failure mode for this is awful, your attribute won't set but
> everything on the screen looks fine.
Kernel is not a place to be user friendly. Or do you propose stripping whitespace
for open(), too? File called "foo.txt " certainly *is* going to be confusing, but it should be allowed at kernel level.
Now... echo foo > /sys/var does not properly report errors. Thats bad, but it needs to
be fixed in bash.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-07 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-25 4:09 [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Jon Smirl
2005-07-25 4:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-25 14:28 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-25 14:48 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-25 16:30 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26 0:00 ` Greg KH
2005-07-26 0:28 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26 0:30 ` Greg KH
2005-07-26 0:56 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26 1:54 ` Greg KH
2005-07-26 3:15 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26 3:29 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-28 2:05 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 3:46 ` Greg KH
2005-07-28 3:59 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 4:05 ` Greg KH
2005-07-28 4:49 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 5:49 ` Greg KH
2005-07-28 7:04 ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 12:54 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 13:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 13:16 ` Paulo Marques
2005-07-28 18:09 ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 19:03 ` Greg KH
2005-07-28 19:57 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 20:22 ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 20:27 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-29 18:50 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-06 0:42 ` Greg KH
2005-08-06 3:48 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-21 22:21 ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 21:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 21:12 ` Jon Smirl
2002-01-01 7:53 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-05 13:32 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 18:01 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 18:14 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 18:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 18:47 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 20:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 20:33 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-06 9:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-07 18:50 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-07 18:47 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-08-07 20:17 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-07 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-05 22:31 ` David Weinehall
2005-07-28 21:17 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 12:52 ` Jon Smirl
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-30 6:04 [PATCH] driver core: add bus_find_device & driver_find_device functions Greg KH
2005-06-30 6:04 ` [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Greg KH
2005-06-30 6:25 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-30 6:29 ` Greg KH
2005-06-24 5:12 [RFC] bind and unbind drivers from userspace through sysfs Greg KH
2005-06-24 5:14 ` [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Greg KH
2005-06-24 15:57 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-06-25 3:27 ` Greg KH
2005-06-25 4:16 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-25 9:39 ` Michael Tokarev
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