From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752559AbVHGSyy (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:54:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752558AbVHGSyx (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:54:53 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.31.123]:59853 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752559AbVHGSyw (ORCPT ); Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:54:52 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:50:38 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Jon Smirl Cc: Oliver Neukum , Pavel Machek , Greg KH , Mitchell Blank Jr , dtor_core@ameritech.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Message-ID: <20050807185037.GC1024@openzaurus.ucw.cz> References: <20050726015401.GA25015@kroah.com> <200508052020.13568.oliver@neukum.org> <9e47339105080511474d89ee8a@mail.gmail.com> <200508052207.49270.oliver@neukum.org> <9e47339105080513335e2674fa@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e47339105080513335e2674fa@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > > > If we are going back to needing helper scripts then I should just > > > remove the entire sysfs graphics interface and switch back to using > > > ioctls and a helper app. Of could no one can ever find the helper app > > > or remember how it works. I thought one of the main reasons behind the > > > sysfs interface was to eliminate these helper apps. > > > > The point is that you _can_ do it with echo, not that it is _easy_. > > Nor is sysfs a solution in any case. > > > > > Without doing whitespace cleanup there is a 100% probability that this > > > will generate bug reports. I know this for a fact because I am already > > > getting them. > > > > Stupid users are not a reason for kernel bloat. > > You have a very wrapped sense of kernel bloat. This is nine lines of > code whose absence is guaranteed to generate a bunch of bug reports. > Not having it is also causing various implementers to implement > attribute processing differently. Some are stripping white space in > their implementations and some are not. If you want to attack kernel Can you point place where we do strip whitespace in kernel sysfs handlers? Pavel -- 64 bytes from 195.113.31.123: icmp_seq=28 ttl=51 time=448769.1 ms