From: Nicolas George <nicolas.george@ens.fr>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix mmap kmem (was: [question] What's the difference between /dev/kmem and /dev/mem)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:39:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050813133925.GA29182@clipper.ens.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0508120930150.3295@g5.osdl.org>
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Le quintidi 25 thermidor, an CCXIII, Linus Torvalds a écrit :
> We do need to support /dev/mem for X, but even that might go away some
> day.
If I may interfere, I would like to point another use of /dev/mem:
long-running memory tests that do not alter the service much. I have written
a small package which does such tests. The principle is to write
pseudo-random data in a page, and later read it back and compare it to what
it should be. For such a test, /dev/mem can be used two ways:
- to access memory pages that have been disabled by mem=/memmap= command
lines arguments;
- to look for the physical address of an userland-allocated and mlock()ed
page (by writing a known pattern in it).
(Well, I am not even sure that the physical address of a mlock()ed page can
not change.)
With the increasing cheapness but lack of reliability of noname RAM, such
tests become very useful for home and even professional usage. I could
easyly imagine a fully automated distribution that would enable such a test
tool for a month after the first installation, for example.
It can be noted that those tests do not require the full features of
/dev/mem, and especially not the security threatening ones. It would be
sufficient to have some sort of API to:
- map a particular physical page of memory in a process' address space,
optionnally reallocating a previous usage of that page, and failing if it
can not be done;
- ask the physical address of a maped page.
The second can be done with /proc/kcore, but it depends on internal
structures of the kernel. I believe it could easily be done with a
/proc/$PID/maps-like file.
The first could be implemented as a flag to mmap (maybe MAP_PHYSICAL) which
would cause the addr argument to be the physical address of the requested
page.
It may seem a lot of trouble for some very specific need, but I have
remarked that bad memory bits are an increasing problem, and ECC memory and
motherboards supporting it are not easy to find for non high-grade
professional hardware. A well-integrated software workaround would be really
useful I believe.
Regads,
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Nicolas George
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-11 21:36 [question] What's the difference between /dev/kmem and /dev/mem Steven Rostedt
2005-08-12 1:15 ` [PATCH] Fix mmap_kmem (was: [question] What's the difference between /dev/kmem and /dev/mem) Steven Rostedt
2005-08-12 14:25 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-08-12 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-12 16:56 ` Dave Jones
2005-08-12 17:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-12 17:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-12 17:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-12 17:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-13 13:39 ` Nicolas George [this message]
2005-08-13 16:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-13 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-13 17:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-13 17:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-13 18:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-16 22:12 ` Greg Edwards
2005-08-16 23:33 ` Alan Cox
2005-08-16 23:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-15 19:33 ` Olaf Hering
2005-08-15 21:14 ` Jeff Dike
2005-08-15 21:50 ` Olaf Hering
2005-08-15 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-16 1:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-16 1:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-16 1:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-13 16:57 ` Joshua Hudson
2005-08-13 17:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-14 14:50 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-08-18 14:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-18 14:18 ` Steven Rostedt
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