From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@drzeus.cx>
Cc: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmc: Multi-sector writes
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:19:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050818201919.GD516@openzaurus.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43044B7A.6090102@drzeus.cx>
Hi!
> >>We had this discussion on LKML and Alan Cox' comment on it was that a
> >>solution like this would be acceptable, where we try and shove
> >>everything out first and then fall back on sector-by-sector to determine
> >>where an error occurs. This will only break if the problematic sector
> >>keeps shifting around, but at that point the card is probably toast
> >>anyway (if the thing keeps moving how can you bad block it?).
> >>
> >>
> >
> >There are two different kinds of error - the ones at the transport
> >level which we are able to force a result of "no sectors transferred"
> >for. For all other errors and successful completions, the driver
> >reports "all sectors tranferred" since the driver level doesn't know
> >that an error occurred.
> >
> >This causes us to tell the upper levels that we were successful,
> >even if we weren't. Hence the problem.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I still don't understand where you see the problem. As you said there
> are two problems that can occur:
>
> * Transport problem. The driver will report back a CRC error, timeout or
> whatnot and break. We might not know how many sectors survived so we try
> again, going sector-by-sector. We might get a transfer error again,
> possibly even before the previous one. But at this point the transport
> is probably so noisy that we have little chans of doing a clean umount
> anyway. So when the device gets fixed, either by replaying the journal
Well, but then you can get:
good data #1
trash #2
good data #2
trash #1
I'm not sure how much journalling filesystems will like that in their journals...
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-18 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-14 12:41 [PATCH] mmc: Multi-sector writes Pierre Ossman
2005-08-17 22:56 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-18 5:48 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-18 5:48 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-18 6:38 ` Russell King
2005-08-18 7:26 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-18 8:23 ` Russell King
2005-08-18 8:48 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-18 20:19 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-08-19 5:00 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-19 7:58 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-19 8:12 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-18 9:42 ` Alan Cox
2005-08-18 9:33 ` Pierre Ossman
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