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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@drzeus.cx>
Cc: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmc: Multi-sector writes
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:19:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050818201919.GD516@openzaurus.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43044B7A.6090102@drzeus.cx>

Hi!

> >>We had this discussion on LKML and Alan Cox' comment on it was that a
> >>solution like this would be acceptable, where we try and shove
> >>everything out first and then fall back on sector-by-sector to determine
> >>where an error occurs. This will only break if the problematic sector
> >>keeps shifting around, but at that point the card is probably toast
> >>anyway (if the thing keeps moving how can you bad block it?).
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >There are two different kinds of error - the ones at the transport
> >level which we are able to force a result of "no sectors transferred"
> >for.  For all other errors and successful completions, the driver
> >reports "all sectors tranferred" since the driver level doesn't know
> >that an error occurred.
> >
> >This causes us to tell the upper levels that we were successful,
> >even if we weren't.  Hence the problem.
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> I still don't understand where you see the problem. As you said there
> are two problems that can occur:
> 
> * Transport problem. The driver will report back a CRC error, timeout or
> whatnot and break. We might not know how many sectors survived so we try
> again, going sector-by-sector. We might get a transfer error again,
> possibly even before the previous one. But at this point the transport
> is probably so noisy that we have little chans of doing a clean umount
> anyway. So when the device gets fixed, either by replaying the journal

Well, but then you can get:

good data #1
trash #2
good data #2
trash #1

I'm not sure how much journalling filesystems will like that in their journals...

-- 
64 bytes from 195.113.31.123: icmp_seq=28 ttl=51 time=448769.1 ms         


  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-18 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-14 12:41 [PATCH] mmc: Multi-sector writes Pierre Ossman
2005-08-17 22:56 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-18  5:48   ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-18  5:48     ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-18  6:38       ` Russell King
2005-08-18  7:26         ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-18  8:23           ` Russell King
2005-08-18  8:48             ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-18 20:19               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-08-19  5:00                 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-19  7:58                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-19  8:12                     ` Pierre Ossman
2005-08-18  9:42           ` Alan Cox
2005-08-18  9:33             ` Pierre Ossman

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