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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Cc: Robert Love <rml@novell.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] IBM HDAPS accelerometer driver.
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:35:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050829083552.GD28077@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0508282109040.1489@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

Hi!

> >>I think he doesn't need to export it at all and he should write code to
> >>park and disable hard disk instead.
> >>(in userspace it's unsolvable --- i.e. you can't enable hard disk when
> >>detected stable condition if the daemon is swapped out on that hard disk)
> >
> >man mlockall() :-).
> 
> You also must not use any syscall that allocates even temporary memory in 
> kernel (select, poll, many others ...) or that waits on semaphore that 
> might be held while allocating memory (i.e. audit and rewrite ide ioctl 
> path).

Kernel module would have exactly same problem.

> And you need extra flags to protect the daemon from being killed at 
> shutdown or blocked at suspend.

Why?

> >Accelerometer is usefull for other stuff besides parking heads, like
> >playing marble madness or what is the name of the game, and even
> >parking heads is way too complex to be put into the kernel.
> >
> >Even if you don't like mlockall(), you can put timeout into
> >disk-freezing interface.
> 
> That makes the protection less reliable (you shake the notebook and after 
> the timeout drop it).

Idea is that userland app keeps saying "unfreeze 5 seconds in future"
as long as you keep shaking -- essentialy a deadlock prevention.
								Pavel
-- 
if you have sharp zaurus hardware you don't need... you know my address

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-29  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-26 15:18 [patch] IBM HDAPS accelerometer driver Robert Love
2005-08-26 17:05 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-08-26 17:15   ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 17:33 ` Brian Gerst
2005-08-26 17:33   ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 18:01     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-26 18:03       ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 18:45         ` Dave Jones
2005-08-26 18:52           ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 19:55         ` Alan Cox
2005-08-26 19:29           ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 19:33             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-26 19:37               ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 20:21                 ` Alan Cox
2005-08-26 22:43                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-26 20:27             ` Dave Jones
2005-08-26 19:54   ` Alan Cox
2005-08-26 18:18 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-26 18:30   ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 19:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-26 19:39   ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 19:43     ` Robert Love
2005-08-26 20:09       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-26 20:12     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-28 11:00       ` Yani Ioannou
2005-08-27 12:41 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-28  2:59   ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-08-28  8:09     ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-28  9:21       ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-28 19:30       ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-08-29  8:35         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-08-29  8:59           ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-29  9:10             ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-30 17:44               ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-08-31  0:12                 ` Yani Ioannou
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     [not found] ` <4GlyV-3Rk-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <4GqyE-2bk-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <4GrEp-3E2-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-08-28 16:26       ` Robert Hancock

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