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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Christopher Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Dynamic tick for 2.6.14 - what's the plan?
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:34:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050831103402.GA6496@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1125477566.3213.6.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

* Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> [050831 11:40]:
> On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 10:44 +0300, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > * Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> [050830 18:57]:
> > > On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:31, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > Same issue, it's waiting on dynticks before being reworked.
> > > >
> > > > Also one more minor issue; Dyntick can cause slow boots with dyntick
> > > > enabled from boot because the there's not much in the timer queue
> > > > until init.
> > > >
> > > > This probably does not show up much on x86 though because of the
> > > > short hardware timers.
> > > 
> > > You could disable it until jiffies >= 0; this covers the boot criteria and 
> > > still allows for moderate savings post boot (though maybe on embedded systems 
> > > the delay is too long?).
> > 
> > Yeah, that's true. Or just enable it from an init script via sysfs.
> 
> ehh
> why does it cause slow boots?
> if that kind of behavior changes... isn't that a sign there is a
> fundamental bug still ?
 
Well it seems like the next_timer_interrupt is something like 400
jiffies away and RCU code waits for completion for example in the
network code.

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-31 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-29 22:26 Dynamic tick for 2.6.14 - what's the plan? Lee Revell
2005-08-29 22:42 ` Christopher Friesen
2005-08-30  0:05   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-30  2:54     ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-08-30  3:48       ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-30 12:31         ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-30 16:01           ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-08-31  7:44             ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-31  8:39               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-31 10:34                 ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2005-08-31 10:50                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 11:03                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-31 11:17                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 11:20                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 13:21                         ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-01  6:36                           ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-31 17:39   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 17:42     ` Christopher Friesen

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