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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@istop.com>
To: Wim Coekaerts <wim.coekaerts@oracle.com>
Cc: linux clustering <linux-cluster@redhat.com>,
	Mark Fasheh <mark.fasheh@oracle.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] Re: GFS, what's remaining
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:21:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509031821.27070.phillips@istop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050903064633.GB4593@ca-server1.us.oracle.com>

On Saturday 03 September 2005 02:46, Wim Coekaerts wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 02:42:36AM -0400, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > On Friday 02 September 2005 20:16, Mark Fasheh wrote:
> > > As far as userspace dlm apis go, dlmfs already abstracts away a large
> > > part of the dlm interaction...
> >
> > Dumb question, why can't you use sysfs for this instead of rolling your
> > own?
>
> because it's totally different. have a look at what it does.

You create a dlm domain when a directory is created.  You create a lock 
resource when a file of that name is opened.  You lock the resource when the 
file is opened.  You access the lvb by read/writing the file.  Why doesn't 
that fit the configfs-nee-sysfs model?  If it does, the payoff will be about 
500 lines saved.

This little dlm fs is very slick, but grossly inefficient.  Maybe efficiency 
doesn't matter here since it is just your slow-path userspace tools taking 
these locks.  Please do not even think of proposing this as a way to export a 
kernel-based dlm for general purpose use!

Your userdlm.c file has some hidden gold in it.  You have factored the dlm 
calls far more attractively than the bad old bazillion-parameter Vaxcluster 
legacy.  You are almost in system call zone there.  (But note my earlier 
comment on dlms in general: until there are dlm-based applications, merging a 
general-purpose dlm API is pointless and has nothing to do with getting your 
filesystem merged.)

Regards,

Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-03 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-01 10:46 GFS, what's remaining David Teigland
2005-09-01 10:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-01 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-01 14:49   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 14:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-01 15:28       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 15:11         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-01 17:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-02  7:04           ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 17:23     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-01 20:21     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02 21:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 23:03         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-03  0:16         ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-03  6:42           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03  6:46             ` [Linux-cluster] " Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 22:21               ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2005-09-04  1:09                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  1:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  3:06                     ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:22                       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  4:30                         ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:51                           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  5:00                             ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  5:52                               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  5:56                                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:46                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  4:58                           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  5:41                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  5:49                               ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05  4:30                               ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:54                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05  9:24                                   ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  9:19                                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05  9:30                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05  9:48                                       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 12:21                                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 19:53                                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 23:20                                           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:06                                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14  9:01                                         ` Patrick Caulfield
2005-09-14  9:46                                           ` Antonio Vargas
2005-09-05 19:11                                     ` kurt.hackel
2005-09-04  6:10                           ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04  7:23                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  8:17                               ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04  8:37                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  6:40                           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  7:28                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  8:01                               ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  8:18                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  9:11                                   ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  9:18                                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  9:39                                       ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 18:03                                     ` Hua Zhong
2005-09-04 19:51                               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  8:37                           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:32                             ` Joel Becker
2005-09-03  5:57         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 14:14           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 15:49             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 16:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  0:57                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  2:03                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  4:02                     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  4:07                       ` GFS, what's remainingh Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  4:58                         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  5:05                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  6:48                             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  6:55                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  7:18                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 14:31                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 13:42                               ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03  7:06         ` GFS, what's remaining Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03  7:27           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 14:16             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 20:24               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 20:53                 ` Kurt Hackel
2005-09-05 23:37                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-06  5:24                   ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 12:55         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-09-03  5:18       ` David Teigland
2005-09-03  6:14         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-03  6:42           ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-03 10:35           ` David Teigland
2005-09-03 20:56             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 20:33         ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-04 22:18           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05  5:54           ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05  7:09             ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-05 14:07               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05  8:27             ` real read-only [was Re: GFS, what's remaining] Pavel Machek
2005-09-05 14:03               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 10:44           ` [Linux-cluster] Re: GFS, what's remaining Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-09-01 11:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-02  9:44   ` David Teigland
2005-09-02 11:46     ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-03  5:28     ` Greg KH
2005-09-05  3:47       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:58         ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-05  9:18           ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  5:43   ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  6:32     ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-05  7:55       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:00         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-10 10:11     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-05  6:29   ` David Teigland
2005-09-08  5:41   ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-01 17:27 ` Daniel Phillips
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-01 18:47 [Linux-cluster] " Hua Zhong (hzhong)

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