From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Cc: andersen@codepoet.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:36:22 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509031836.22357.vda@ilport.com.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AFDE003F-F14F-42CE-B964-2E04A4402406@mac.com>
On Saturday 03 September 2005 08:55, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> On Sep 3, 2005, at 00:28:59, Erik Andersen wrote:
> >> Absolutely not. This would be a POSIX namespace violation; they
> >> *must* use double-underscore types.
> >
> > I assume you are worried about the stuff under asm that ends up
> > being included by nearly every header file in the world. Of
> > course asm must use double-underscore types. But the thing is,
> > the vast majority of the kernel headers live under
> > linux/include/linux/ and do not use double-underscore types, they
> > use kernel specific, non-underscored types such as s8, u32, etc.
> > My copy of IEEE 1003.1 and my copy of ISO/IEC 9899:1999 both fail
> > to prohibit using the shiny new ISO C99 type for the various
> > #include <linux/*> header files, which is what I was suggesting.
>
> Anything in linux/* that is included by userspace should not
> presume that stdint.h has already been included or include it on
> its own, because the userspace program may have already made its
> own definitions of uint32_t, or it may not want them defined at
> all.
Is this an excercise in academia? Userspace app which defines
uint32_t to anything different than 'typedef <appropriate int type>'
deserves the punishment, and one which does have such typedef
instead of #include stdint.h will not notice.
All these u32, uint32_t, __u32 end up typedef'ing to same
integer type anyway...
Why should we care of such 'struct uint32_t { ... };' pervert cases?
If we will do, I suspect we will end up with __________u32's.
We already have a lot of __'s:
linux/cache.h:#define ____cacheline_aligned __attribute__((__aligned__(SMP_CACHE_BYTES)))
linux/rcupdate.h: typeof(p) _________p1 = p; \
*three underscores* line count over kernel's include/:
# grep -r ___ . | wc -l
10129
and "only" two underscores:
# grep -r __ . | wc -l
72216
--
vda
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-03 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-02 3:00 [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 13:41 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-02 20:51 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:58 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 0:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 0:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 0:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 4:28 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 5:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 5:50 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 5:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 6:41 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 15:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 15:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 16:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-05 16:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-05 23:28 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-06 1:29 ` [RFC][MEGAPATCH] Change __ASSEMBLY__ to __ASSEMBLER__ (defined by GCC from 2.95 to current CVS) Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10 8:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10 8:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-10 17:38 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10 22:04 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-11 0:33 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-11 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-11 3:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12 8:09 ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 15:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-12 15:47 ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 17:17 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-09-12 21:14 ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 21:39 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12 17:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-12 17:51 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12 21:04 ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-14 13:56 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-15 21:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2005-09-03 5:55 ` [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 5:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 6:05 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 15:36 ` Denis Vlasenko [this message]
2005-09-03 16:33 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 16:51 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-14 13:46 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-14 17:01 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-09-14 17:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-14 18:14 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-14 19:09 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-09-14 19:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-14 19:46 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 21:42 ` Jeff Dike
2005-09-02 21:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-02 22:44 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-02 23:41 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
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