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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: linux clustering <linux-cluster@redhat.com>
Cc: phillips@istop.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, ak@suse.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] Re: GFS, what's remaining
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 22:49:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050904054936.GW8684@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050903224140.0442fac4.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 10:41:40PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Are you saying that the posix-file lookalike interface provides access to
> part of the functionality, but there are other APIs which are used to
> access the rest of the functionality?  If so, what is that interface, and
> why cannot that interface offer access to 100% of the functionality, thus
> making the posix-file tricks unnecessary?

	Currently, this is all the interface that the OCFS2 DLM
provides.  But yes, if you wanted to provide the rest of the VMS
functionality (something that GFS2's DLM does), you'd need to use a more
concrete interface.
	IMHO, it's worthwhile to have a simple interface, one already
used by mkfs.ocfs2, mount.ocfs2, fsck.ocfs2, etc.  This is an interface
that can and is used by shell scripts even (we do this to test the DLM).
If you make it a C-library-only interface, you've just restricted the
subset of folks that can use it, while adding programming complexity.
	I think that a simple fs-based interface can coexist with a more
complex one.  FILE* doesn't give you the flexibility of read()/write(),
but I wouldn't remove it :-)

Joel

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-04  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-01 10:46 GFS, what's remaining David Teigland
2005-09-01 10:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-01 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-01 14:49   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 14:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-01 15:28       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 15:11         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-01 17:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-02  7:04           ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 17:23     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-01 20:21     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02 21:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 23:03         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-03  0:16         ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-03  6:42           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03  6:46             ` [Linux-cluster] " Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 22:21               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  1:09                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  1:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  3:06                     ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:22                       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  4:30                         ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:51                           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  5:00                             ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  5:52                               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  5:56                                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:46                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  4:58                           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  5:41                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  5:49                               ` Joel Becker [this message]
2005-09-05  4:30                               ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:54                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05  9:24                                   ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  9:19                                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05  9:30                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05  9:48                                       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 12:21                                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 19:53                                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 23:20                                           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:06                                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14  9:01                                         ` Patrick Caulfield
2005-09-14  9:46                                           ` Antonio Vargas
2005-09-05 19:11                                     ` kurt.hackel
2005-09-04  6:10                           ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04  7:23                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  8:17                               ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04  8:37                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  6:40                           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  7:28                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  8:01                               ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  8:18                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  9:11                                   ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  9:18                                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  9:39                                       ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 18:03                                     ` Hua Zhong
2005-09-04 19:51                               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  8:37                           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:32                             ` Joel Becker
2005-09-03  5:57         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 14:14           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 15:49             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 16:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  0:57                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  2:03                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  4:02                     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  4:07                       ` GFS, what's remainingh Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  4:58                         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  5:05                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  6:48                             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  6:55                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  7:18                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 14:31                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 13:42                               ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03  7:06         ` GFS, what's remaining Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03  7:27           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 14:16             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 20:24               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 20:53                 ` Kurt Hackel
2005-09-05 23:37                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-06  5:24                   ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 12:55         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-09-03  5:18       ` David Teigland
2005-09-03  6:14         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-03  6:42           ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-03 10:35           ` David Teigland
2005-09-03 20:56             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 20:33         ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-04 22:18           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05  5:54           ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05  7:09             ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-05 14:07               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05  8:27             ` real read-only [was Re: GFS, what's remaining] Pavel Machek
2005-09-05 14:03               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 10:44           ` [Linux-cluster] Re: GFS, what's remaining Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-09-01 11:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-02  9:44   ` David Teigland
2005-09-02 11:46     ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-03  5:28     ` Greg KH
2005-09-05  3:47       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:58         ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-05  9:18           ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  5:43   ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  6:32     ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-05  7:55       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:00         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-10 10:11     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-05  6:29   ` David Teigland
2005-09-08  5:41   ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-01 17:27 ` Daniel Phillips
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-01 18:47 [Linux-cluster] " Hua Zhong (hzhong)

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