From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@istop.com>,
linux-cluster@redhat.com, wim.coekaerts@oracle.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, ak@suse.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] Re: GFS, what's remaining
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 01:01:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050904080102.GY8684@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050904002828.3d26f64c.akpm@osdl.org>
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 12:28:28AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> If there is already a richer interface into all this code (such as a
> syscall one) and it's feasible to migrate the open() tricksies to that API
> in the future if it all comes unstuck then OK.
> That's why I asked (thus far unsuccessfully):
I personally was under the impression that "syscalls are not
to be added". I'm also wary of the effort required to hook into process
exit. Not to mention all the lifetiming that has to be written again.
On top of that, we lose our cute ability to shell script it. We
find this very useful in testing, and think others would in practice.
> Are you saying that the posix-file lookalike interface provides
> access to part of the functionality, but there are other APIs which are
> used to access the rest of the functionality? If so, what is that
> interface, and why cannot that interface offer access to 100% of the
> functionality, thus making the posix-file tricks unnecessary?
I thought I stated this in my other email. We're not intending
to extend dlmfs. It pretty much covers the simple DLM usage required of
a simple interface. The OCFS2 DLM does not provide any other
functionality.
If the OCFS2 DLM grew more functionality, or you consider the
GFS2 DLM that already has it (and a less intuitive interface via sysfs
IIRC), I would contend that dlmfs still has a place. It's simple to use
and understand, and it's usable from shell scripts and other simple
code.
Joel
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Joel Becker
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-04 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-01 10:46 GFS, what's remaining David Teigland
2005-09-01 10:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-01 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-01 14:49 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 14:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-01 15:28 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 15:11 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-01 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-02 7:04 ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 17:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-01 20:21 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02 21:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 23:03 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-03 0:16 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-03 6:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03 6:46 ` [Linux-cluster] " Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 22:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 1:09 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 1:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 3:06 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 4:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 4:30 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 4:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 5:00 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 5:52 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 5:56 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 4:46 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 4:58 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 5:41 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 5:49 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05 4:30 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 8:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 9:24 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 9:19 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 9:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 9:48 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 12:21 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 19:53 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 23:20 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 9:01 ` Patrick Caulfield
2005-09-14 9:46 ` Antonio Vargas
2005-09-05 19:11 ` kurt.hackel
2005-09-04 6:10 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04 7:23 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 8:17 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04 8:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 6:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 8:01 ` Joel Becker [this message]
2005-09-04 8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 9:11 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 9:18 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 9:39 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 18:03 ` Hua Zhong
2005-09-04 19:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 8:37 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:32 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-03 5:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 14:14 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 15:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 16:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 0:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 2:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 4:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 4:07 ` GFS, what's remainingh Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 4:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 5:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 6:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 6:55 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 7:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 14:31 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 13:42 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03 7:06 ` GFS, what's remaining Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 7:27 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 14:16 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 20:24 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 20:53 ` Kurt Hackel
2005-09-05 23:37 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-06 5:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 12:55 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-09-03 5:18 ` David Teigland
2005-09-03 6:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-03 6:42 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-03 10:35 ` David Teigland
2005-09-03 20:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 20:33 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-04 22:18 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05 5:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 7:09 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-05 14:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 8:27 ` real read-only [was Re: GFS, what's remaining] Pavel Machek
2005-09-05 14:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 10:44 ` [Linux-cluster] Re: GFS, what's remaining Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-09-01 11:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-02 9:44 ` David Teigland
2005-09-02 11:46 ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-03 5:28 ` Greg KH
2005-09-05 3:47 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 8:58 ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-05 9:18 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 5:43 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 6:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-05 7:55 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 8:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-10 10:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-05 6:29 ` David Teigland
2005-09-08 5:41 ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-01 17:27 ` Daniel Phillips
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2005-09-01 18:47 [Linux-cluster] " Hua Zhong (hzhong)
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