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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Bernd Eckenfels <be-mail2005@lina.inka.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GFS, what's remaining
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:37:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050905233731.GA24523@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050905202403.GB7580@lina.inka.de>

On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:24:03PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> The whole point of the orcacle cluster filesystem as it was described in old
> papers was about pfiles, control files and software, because you can easyly
> use direct block access (with ASM) for tablespaces.

	OCFS, the original filesystem, only works for datafiles,
logfiles, and other database data.  It's currently used in serious anger
by several major customers.  Oracle's websites must have a list of them
somewhere.  We're talking many terabytes of datafiles.

> Yes, I dont dispute the usefullness of OCFS for ORA_HOME (beside I think a
> replicated filesystem makes more sense), I am just nor sure if anybody sane
> would use it for tablespaces.

	OCFS2, the new filesystem, is fully general purpose.  It
supports all the usual stuff, is quite fast, and is what we expect folks
to use for both ORACLE_HOME and datafiles in the future.  Customers can,
of course, use ASM or even raw devices.  OCFS2 is as fast as raw
devices, and far more manageable, so raw devices are probably not a
choice for the future.  ASM has its own management advantages, and we
certainly expect customers to like it as well.  But that doesn't mean
people won't use OCFS2 for datafiles depending on their environment or
needs.


-- 

"The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours
 is that he shall be able and willing to pull his weight."
	- Theodore Roosevelt

Joel Becker
Senior Member of Technical Staff
Oracle
E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com
Phone: (650) 506-8127

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-05 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-01 10:46 GFS, what's remaining David Teigland
2005-09-01 10:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-01 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-01 14:49   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 14:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-01 15:28       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 15:11         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-01 17:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-02  7:04           ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 17:23     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-01 20:21     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02 21:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 23:03         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-03  0:16         ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-03  6:42           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03  6:46             ` [Linux-cluster] " Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 22:21               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  1:09                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  1:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  3:06                     ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:22                       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  4:30                         ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:51                           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  5:00                             ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  5:52                               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  5:56                                 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  4:46                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  4:58                           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  5:41                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  5:49                               ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05  4:30                               ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:54                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05  9:24                                   ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  9:19                                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05  9:30                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05  9:48                                       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 12:21                                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 19:53                                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 23:20                                           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:06                                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14  9:01                                         ` Patrick Caulfield
2005-09-14  9:46                                           ` Antonio Vargas
2005-09-05 19:11                                     ` kurt.hackel
2005-09-04  6:10                           ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04  7:23                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  8:17                               ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04  8:37                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  6:40                           ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  7:28                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  8:01                               ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  8:18                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  9:11                                   ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04  9:18                                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04  9:39                                       ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 18:03                                     ` Hua Zhong
2005-09-04 19:51                               ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04  8:37                           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:32                             ` Joel Becker
2005-09-03  5:57         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 14:14           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 15:49             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 16:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  0:57                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  2:03                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  4:02                     ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  4:07                       ` GFS, what's remainingh Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  4:58                         ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  5:05                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  6:48                             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06  6:55                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06  7:18                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 14:31                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 13:42                               ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03  7:06         ` GFS, what's remaining Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03  7:27           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 14:16             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 20:24               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 20:53                 ` Kurt Hackel
2005-09-05 23:37                 ` Joel Becker [this message]
2005-09-06  5:24                   ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 12:55         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-09-03  5:18       ` David Teigland
2005-09-03  6:14         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-03  6:42           ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-03 10:35           ` David Teigland
2005-09-03 20:56             ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 20:33         ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-04 22:18           ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05  5:54           ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05  7:09             ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-05 14:07               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05  8:27             ` real read-only [was Re: GFS, what's remaining] Pavel Machek
2005-09-05 14:03               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 10:44           ` [Linux-cluster] Re: GFS, what's remaining Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-09-01 11:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-02  9:44   ` David Teigland
2005-09-02 11:46     ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-03  5:28     ` Greg KH
2005-09-05  3:47       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:58         ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-05  9:18           ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  5:43   ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  6:32     ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-05  7:55       ` David Teigland
2005-09-05  8:00         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-10 10:11     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-05  6:29   ` David Teigland
2005-09-08  5:41   ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-01 17:27 ` Daniel Phillips

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