From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] remove HAVE_ARCH_CMPXCHG
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:03:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050914230352.G30746@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <432854B6.1020408@yahoo.com.au>; from nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au on Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 02:49:58AM +1000
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 02:49:58AM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Roman Zippel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Is there any point in keeping this around?
> >
> >
> > Yes, for drivers which want to use it to synchronize with userspace.
> > Alternatively it could be changed into a Kconfig definition.
> >
>
> I think it already is. At least, I did grep for it and didn't
> see anything.
>
> I think userspace synchronization may be quite a valid use of
> atomic cmpxchg, but Kconfig is a far better place to do it than
> testing HAVE_ARCH_CMPXCHG.
What business has userspace got of telling whether cmpxchg works on
an architecture by looking at kernel headers?
Even if an architecture provides an implementation of it, it might
rely on turning IRQs off, which may not be possible in userspace,
leading to the userspace version actually being non-atomic.
*Forget* kernel includes telling userspace what architecture
features are available. It's extremely buggy by design.
If you want to remove HAVE_ARCH_CMPXCHG that's fine. If userspace
complains, you've found a bug for them. 8)
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of: 2.6 Serial core
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-14 22:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-14 14:48 [PATCH 1/5] atomic: introduce atomic_cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:49 ` [PATCH 2/5] atomic: introduce atomic_inc_not_zero Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:51 ` [PATCH 3/5] rcu file: use atomic primitives Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:55 ` [PATCH 4/5] atomic: dec_and_lock use cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 15:01 ` [PATCH 5/5] remove HAVE_ARCH_CMPXCHG Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 16:31 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 16:49 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:59 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 22:03 ` Russell King [this message]
2005-09-14 22:26 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-15 7:10 ` Russell King
2005-09-15 13:08 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-14 15:20 ` [PATCH 4/5] atomic: dec_and_lock use cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 16:24 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 16:52 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-17 0:05 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 16:16 ` [PATCH 2/5] atomic: introduce atomic_inc_not_zero Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 16:44 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:04 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:18 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 22:00 ` Russell King
2005-09-14 22:10 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 22:21 ` Russell King
2005-09-15 1:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-17 1:15 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17 6:36 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-17 10:01 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17 7:19 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-17 7:34 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-18 8:08 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-17 0:59 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17 7:18 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-17 7:27 ` Russell King
2005-09-18 6:03 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 15:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] atomic: introduce atomic_cmpxchg Russell King
2005-09-14 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
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