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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: penberg@cs.Helsinki.FI, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	viro@ftp.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: p = kmalloc(sizeof(*p), )
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:17:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050920171737.GC493@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050920101128.70fec697.akpm@osdl.org>

On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 10:11:28AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >  Since some of the other major contributors to the kernel appear to
> >  also disagree with the statement, I think that the entry in
> >  CodingStyle must be removed.
> 
> Nobody has put forward a decent reason for doing so.  "I want to grep for
> initialisations" is pretty pointless because a) it won't catch everything
> anyway and b) most structures are allocated and initialised at a single
> place and many of those which aren't should probably be converted to do
> that anyway.
> 
> The broader point is that you're trying to optimise for the wrong thing. 
> We should optimise for those who read code, not for those who write it.
> 
> Every time I see such a type-unsafe allocation in a patch I have to go hunt
> down the definition of the lhs.  Which is sometimes in a header file, often
> one which hasn't been indexed yet.  Is a pita.

Well, as I've said, don't expect folk to change their style just
because something has been decided privately amongst a small select
group of folk (which is exactly what seems to have happened - maybe
not intentionally.)

And don't expect subsystem maintainers to accept the new "style"
guidelines without a fight.

However, if we really are concerned about type-unsafe allocation,
we should be using something like Alan's suggestion, where the
return type from the *alloc function is appropriately typed and
not void *.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 Serial core

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-20 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-18 10:06 p = kmalloc(sizeof(*p), ) Russell King
2005-09-18 11:04 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-18 14:39   ` Al Viro
2005-09-18 16:25     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-18 17:30       ` Al Viro
2005-09-18 18:00         ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-18 17:47       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-18 16:32 ` Robert Love
2005-09-18 16:52   ` Willy Tarreau
2005-09-18 17:18     ` Al Viro
2005-09-18 17:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-18 17:45         ` Al Viro
2005-09-18 20:34           ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-18 21:12             ` Al Viro
2005-09-18 21:52               ` Al Viro
2005-09-18 22:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-18 23:07                   ` Al Viro
2005-09-20  6:31                     ` Richard Henderson
2005-09-19 21:20                   ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-09-19 21:28                     ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-09-18 19:07         ` Al Viro
2005-09-18 21:30           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-18 21:14             ` Al Viro
2005-09-19  6:09             ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-09-21  2:18         ` Miles Bader
2005-09-18 17:32   ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-19  6:47   ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-09-20  8:53   ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-20  9:39     ` Al Viro
2005-09-20  9:47       ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-09-20  9:53         ` Al Viro
2005-09-20 10:07           ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-09-20 15:14         ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-20 11:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-20 11:40   ` Russell King
2005-09-20 11:56     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-20 12:20     ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-09-20 12:31       ` Russell King
2005-09-20 12:35         ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-09-20 15:21           ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-09-20 12:53         ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-09-20 17:11         ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-20 17:17           ` Russell King [this message]
2005-09-20 18:02           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-20 17:59             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-20 18:11               ` Russell King
2005-09-20 18:41                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-20 20:41               ` Alan Cox
2005-09-20 19:41             ` Horst von Brand

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