From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com>,
Morton Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Fastboot mailing list <fastboot@lists.osdl.org>,
linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernel core dumps
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:39:50 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050923050950.GC3736@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1zmq5awsn.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:31:52AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Just flagging the cpu, and then mapping that to the stack pointer found in
> > the associated NT_PRSTATUS register set should work OK too. It gets
> > a little muddy if it crashed while running on an IRQ stack, but it still can be
> > tracked back from there as well. (although not if the crashing task overflowed
> > the IRQ stack)
>
> You can't track it back from the crashing cpu if the IRQ stack overflows
> either. So I would rather have crash confused when trying to find the
> task_struct. Then to have the kernel fail avoidably while attempting
> to capture a core dump.
>
> Even if you overflow the stack wit a bit of detective work it should still
> be possible to show the stack overflowed and correct for it when analyzing
> the crash dump. Doing anything like that from a crashing cpu (in a
> reliable way) is very hard.
>
> > The task_struct would be ideal though -- if the kernel's use of task_structs
> > changes in the future, well, then crash is going to need a serious re-write
> > anyway... FWIW, netdump and diskdump use the NT_TASKSTRUCT note
> > note to store just the "current" pointer, and not the whole task_struct itself,
> > which would just be a waste of space in the ELF header for crash's purposes.
> > And looking at the gdb sources, it appears to be totally ignored. Who
> > uses the NT_TASKSTRUCT note anyway?
>
> Good question, especially as the kernel exports whatever we have for
> a task struct today in the ELF note. No ABI compatibility is
> maintained.
>
> Given all of that I recommend an empty NT_TASKSTRUCT to flag the
> crashing cpu, for now.
>
I got a concern here. Are we not breaking the convention. NT_TASKSTRUCT note
type represents that task_sturct is stored in note data. elf_core_dump()
and /proc/kcore already do that (That's a different story that it might not
be needed at all). Now if we store a null NT_TASKSTURCT, same note type will
carry two meanings.
IMHO, introducing a null NT_KDUMPINFO will help in that sense, at least
there are no two interpretations of same note type. Also it provides the
scope to add more elements to it if need be.
Thanks
Vivek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-23 5:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-21 6:56 [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO to kernel core dumps Vivek Goyal
2005-09-21 14:28 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-21 15:17 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernel " Dave Anderson
2005-09-22 9:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-22 14:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-22 15:06 ` Dave Anderson
2005-09-22 16:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-22 20:33 ` Haren Myneni
2005-09-23 5:09 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2005-09-23 7:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-23 15:17 ` Subject: [PATCH] Don't uselessly export task_struct to user space in " Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <OF0A1E6B6F.F00DC760-ON87257084.005F99D6-88257084.00634A38@us.ibm.com>
2005-09-23 5:19 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernel " Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <4332FD56.2F5256F5@redhat.com>
2005-09-23 7:12 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernelcore dumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-23 12:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-26 6:29 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-22 16:38 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernel core dumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-22 17:00 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFOtokernel " Dave Anderson
2005-09-22 7:39 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO to kernel " Vivek Goyal
2005-09-22 7:46 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-22 8:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-22 9:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
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