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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostdt@goodmis.org>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.13-rc6-rt9
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:46:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050930014636.GV8177@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1128042449.15115.375.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de>

On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 03:07:29AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 18:00 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Even with a current -rt (2.6.14-rc2-rt5) UML does not run. The issue is
> > > indeed (as jeff pointed out) that VTALRM is never send. The small test
> > > programm below illustrates this.
> > > 
> > > On a non-rt kernel it completed in 1 second.
> > > On a -rt kernel it waits at infinitum.
> > 
> > Will play with it and see what I broke...
> 
> Paul, 
> 
> you are not the culprit :)

Woo-hoo!!!  Exonerated!!!  This time, anyway...  ;-)

> The run_posix_cpu_timers(p) call is #ifdef'd out with PREEMPT_RT. 
> 
> Thats a hard to fix issue. 
> 
> It can not be run from hardirq context, as it takes a lot of locks
> (especially our favorites: tasklist_lock and sighand->siglock). :(
> 
> Maybe another playground for rcu, but it might also be solved by some
> other mechanism for accounting and delayed execution in the PREEMPT_RT
> case.

Certainly check_thread_timers() and check_process_timers() are playing
with a number of task_struct fields, so it is not immediately clear
to me how to safely replace tasklist_lock with RCU, at least not with
a simple and small patch.

What did you have in mind for delayed execution?

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-30  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-18  6:01 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Ingo Molnar
2005-08-18 15:24 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-18 16:08   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-18 21:17   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-18 22:54 ` [2.6.13-rc6-rt9 patch] fix DECNET_ROUTER=y compile Adrian Bunk
2005-08-22  7:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-18 22:54 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9: compile errors Adrian Bunk
2005-08-22  8:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-08-19  0:05 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Chuck Harding
2005-08-19  6:39 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-19 13:00   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-19 15:36     ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-22  7:57       ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Ingo Molnar
2005-08-22  7:58     ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Ingo Molnar
2005-08-23 12:36   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Ingo Molnar
2005-08-23 12:50     ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-23 12:56       ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Ingo Molnar
2005-08-19 16:56 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Peter Zijlstra
2005-08-19 18:30   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Peter Zijlstra
2005-08-19 18:43     ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Paul E. McKenney
2005-08-20 19:27       ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Peter Zijlstra
2005-08-20 21:24         ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Jeff Dike
2005-09-29  7:54           ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Peter Zijlstra
2005-09-30  1:00             ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Paul E. McKenney
2005-09-30  1:07               ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-30  1:46                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2005-09-30  6:17                   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-19 21:50 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Darren Hart
2005-08-25  6:24   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Ingo Molnar
2005-08-19 22:13 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Darren Hart
2005-08-19 23:00   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-20 15:13     ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Darren Hart
2005-08-19 23:48 ` [PATCH 2.6.13-rc6-rt9] PI aware dynamic priority adjustment Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-20  0:19   ` George Anzinger
2005-08-20  0:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-20  1:36       ` George Anzinger
2005-09-26 21:03         ` Roland McGrath
2005-08-20 14:10   ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-20 16:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-20 17:50       ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-22 21:37       ` George Anzinger
2005-08-20 16:58   ` [PATCH] fix send_sigqueue() vs thread exit race Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-21  9:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-21 10:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-21 12:38         ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-21 10:59       ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-21 21:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-21 21:50           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-22  6:39             ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-22  8:08               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-22  8:52                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-22 10:06                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-22 16:45                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-23 10:13                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-23 16:17                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-23 18:29                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-24 13:42                           ` [PATCH] fix exit_itimers() vs posix_timer_event() AB-BA deadlock Oleg Nesterov
2005-09-25  5:44                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-25 14:07                               ` [PATCH] fix exit_itimers() vs posix_timer_event() AB-BAdeadlock Oleg Nesterov
2005-10-23 16:50                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-08-23 10:42                       ` [PATCH] fix send_sigqueue() vs thread exit race Thomas Gleixner
2005-08-22  7:38   ` [PATCH 2.6.13-rc6-rt9] PI aware dynamic priority adjustment Ingo Molnar
2005-08-22  7:41     ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-19 10:41 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Karsten Wiese
2005-08-19 22:42 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Chuck Harding
2005-08-19 23:12   ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Chuck Harding
2005-08-22  7:47 ` 2.6.13-rc6-rt9 Ingo Molnar

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