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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Sergey Panov <sipan@sipan.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>,
	andrew.patterson@hp.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Moore, Eric Dean" <Eric.Moore@lsil.com>,
	jejb@steeleye.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:19:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051022171943.GA7546@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1129994910.6286.21.camel@sipan.sipan.org>

On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 11:28:30AM -0400, Sergey Panov wrote:
>  It is a mistake to think that you can not do a big rework and keep SCSI
> sub-system stable. You just have to make sure the OLD way is supported
> for as log as it is needed.

No.  Rewriting something from scratch is horrible engineering practice.
It's impossible to very huge changes, small incremental changes OTOH
allow easier planning, easier calculation of the risks and cost and most
import better test coverage.  There's nothing specific to scsi or linux
kernel code about it.  It'd suggest you read:

 http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

or various similar articles.  Full scale rewrites almost never work
out.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-22 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]       ` <4357F7DE.7050004@adaptec.com>
     [not found]         ` <1129852879.30258.137.camel@bluto.andrew>
2005-10-21  0:46           ` ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs) Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21  5:09             ` Mike Christie
2005-10-21  5:41             ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-21  6:19               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 18:37                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 17:48             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:04               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-21 18:12                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:20                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-22  2:30                     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-22  2:54                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22  3:53                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22 17:14                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 17:49                             ` Francois Romieu
2005-10-22 16:51                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:18               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 18:50                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:54                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 19:13                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:23                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 22:20                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-21 19:22                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:39                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 20:41                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 21:12                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 21:24                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 21:41                               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 22:14                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 22:43                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22  9:26                                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 17:23                                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 10:42                                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 10:58                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-22 15:28                                         ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-22 17:19                                           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2005-10-22 17:38                                             ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-24 15:18                                               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 18:27                                             ` Alan Cox
2005-10-24 13:51                                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-24 15:41                                               ` Alan Cox
2005-10-24 15:14                                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-24 15:59                                                   ` Regala
2005-10-24 16:13                                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 17:30                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 18:19                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22 17:49                                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-24 22:09                                           ` ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attachedPHYs) David Lang
2005-10-24 23:09                                             ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 11:12                                       ` David Lang
2005-10-22 17:39                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 17:41                                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 17:51                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-22 18:21                                             ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 18:39                                             ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-22 13:27                                       ` ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs) Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 16:09                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:41                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-21 19:48                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:54                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-21 20:05                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:46                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-21 19:50                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 20:31 Salyzyn, Mark

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