From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.14-rc5-rt6 -- False NMI lockup detects
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:28:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051025142848.GA7642@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1130250219.21118.11.camel@localhost.localdomain>
* Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> Hi Ingo and Thomas,
>
> On some of my machines, I've been experiencing false NMI lockups.
> This usually happens on slower machines, and taking a look into this,
> it seems to be due to a short time where no processes are using
> timers, and the ktimer interrupts aren't needed. So the APIC timer,
> which now is used only for the ktimers, has a five second pause, and
> causes the NMI to go off. The NMI uses the apic timer to determine
> lockups.
this would be a bug - the jiffy tick should be processed every 1 msec,
regardless of whether there are any ktimers pending. (in the future we
want to use a special ktimer for the jiffy tick, but that's not
implemented yet.)
> So, I added a more generic method. This only works for x86 for now,
> but it has a #ifdef to keep other archs working until it implements
> this as well. I added a nmi_irq_incr which is called by __do_IRQ in
> the generic code. This is what is used in the NMI code to determine
> if the CPU has locked up. This way we don't have to worry about what
> resource we are using for timers.
this will be useful for tickless stuff - but right now 'no APIC timer
irq for 5 seconds' is a 'must not happen'.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-25 14:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-25 14:23 2.6.14-rc5-rt6 -- False NMI lockup detects Steven Rostedt
2005-10-25 14:28 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-10-25 19:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-25 19:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-25 20:00 ` George Anzinger
2005-10-25 20:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-26 11:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-01 11:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 17:41 ` Steven Rostedt
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