From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>,
Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>,
Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
david singleton <dsingleton@mvista.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cc@ccrma.Stanford.EDU,
William Weston <weston@lysdexia.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.14-rc4-rt7
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:44:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051025154440.GA12149@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1130183199.27168.296.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com>
John
i found one source of timekeeping bugs on SMP boxes, it's the
non-monotonicity of the TSC:
... time warped from 1270809453 to 1270808096.
... MTSC warped from 0000000a731a8c3c [0] to 0000000a731a899c [2].
... MTSC warped from 0000000a7c93baec [0] to 0000000a7c93b7a8 [3].
... MTSC warped from 0000000a881d6afc [0] to 0000000a881d67d0 [2].
... MTSC warped from 0000000a924217a0 [0] to 0000000a924216ac [3].
... MTSC warped from 0000000a9c592788 [0] to 0000000a9c59232c [2].
... MTSC warped from 0000000aa7aa95c8 [0] to 0000000aa7aa9338 [3].
... MTSC warped from 0000000b33206d60 [0] to 0000000b33206a48 [3].
... time warped from 26699635824 to 26699633144.
... MTSC warped from 00000013f379cb88 [0] to 00000013f379c7e0 [3].
... MTSC warped from 0000001413df8660 [0] to 0000001413df8200 [3].
... MTSC warped from 00000014194f5360 [1] to 00000014194f51b0 [2].
... time warped from 60775269225 to 60775266727.
the number in square brackets is the CPU#. I.e. CPUs on this 4-CPU box
have small TSC differences, which ends up leaking into the generic TOD
code, causing real time warps, which causes ktimer weirdnesses (timers
failed to expire, etc.).
(the above output tracks TSC results globally, under a spinlock. It also
detects time-warps that propagate into the monotonic clock output.)
unfortunately, there's no easy solution for this. We could make
cycle_last per-CPU, but that again brings up the question of how to set
up the per-CPU 'TSC offset' values - those would need similar technique
that the current clear-all-TSCs-on-all-CPUs code does - which as we can
see failed ...
Ingo
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-17 16:05 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-17 17:06 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Mark Knecht
2005-10-17 19:21 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-18 1:30 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-18 1:50 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Mark Knecht
2005-10-18 6:54 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 7:28 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 14:11 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 K.R. Foley
2005-10-18 14:49 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 21:04 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-18 21:31 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-19 6:01 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-19 11:19 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-20 19:12 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-20 19:16 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-20 23:55 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-21 8:05 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-21 23:25 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-22 0:20 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Mark Knecht
2005-10-22 3:41 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-22 5:12 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Lee Revell
2005-10-22 23:25 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-22 3:58 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-24 19:28 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-24 19:38 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-24 19:46 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-25 9:17 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Antonio
2005-10-25 15:44 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-10-25 15:58 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-25 17:35 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-10-25 18:16 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-25 20:12 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 George Anzinger
2005-10-26 8:28 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-26 16:03 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 George Anzinger
2005-10-26 17:17 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 George Anzinger
2005-10-26 20:45 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Rui Nuno Capela
2005-10-26 22:07 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-26 23:33 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-26 23:54 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-26 23:58 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 0:11 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-27 0:34 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-26 23:57 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 0:02 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-27 0:45 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-27 1:07 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 1:22 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-27 1:37 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 1:52 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 john stultz
2005-10-27 2:11 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 22:01 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 William Weston
2005-10-27 22:32 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 1:26 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 8:01 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Rui Nuno Capela
2005-10-27 17:44 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-27 23:18 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Rui Nuno Capela
2005-10-28 17:13 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-03 22:13 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 - [PATCH] improved boot time TSC synchronization Jim Houston
2005-10-24 20:39 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-24 21:00 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Lee Revell
2005-10-17 21:43 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Daniel Walker
2005-10-17 22:03 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-17 22:05 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Daniel Walker
2005-10-17 22:15 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Thomas Gleixner
2005-10-18 6:42 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 16:23 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Daniel Walker
2005-10-18 20:26 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-18 0:19 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Daniel Walker
2005-10-18 6:45 ` 2.6.14-rc4-rt7 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-20 19:54 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-20 23:33 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-21 0:39 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Mark Knecht
2005-10-21 13:47 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Mark Knecht
2005-10-21 10:01 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-21 10:16 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-21 10:18 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-21 10:26 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-22 23:23 ` 2.6.14-rc5-rt1 Felix Oxley
2005-10-24 22:28 ` [ANNOUNCE] 2.6.14-rc5-rt5 kgdb update George Anzinger
2005-11-12 15:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-12 15:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-12 16:10 ` George Anzinger
2005-10-30 13:33 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-30 14:58 ` 2.6.14-rt1 K.R. Foley
2005-10-30 15:41 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-10-30 17:17 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-30 17:19 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-10-30 16:30 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Mark Knecht
2005-10-31 18:13 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-01 20:18 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-02 2:47 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-02 2:55 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 3:05 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 3:26 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 3:32 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 3:36 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 4:05 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 9:21 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Florian Schmidt
2005-11-02 14:35 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 14:40 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 14:45 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 15:37 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 16:07 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 16:24 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 16:53 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Carlos Antunes
2005-11-02 16:37 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-02 18:13 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-02 7:02 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 18:13 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-04 7:04 ` 2.6.14-rt1 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-02 21:41 ` 2.6.14-rt4: __get_nsec_offset() false positives john stultz
2005-11-03 6:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-05 2:35 ` 2.6.14-rt1 (now rt6) Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-05 3:46 ` Mark Knecht
2005-11-09 11:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-10 12:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-10 22:10 ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
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