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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, dvhltc@us.ibm.com, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_FREE)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:43:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051102014321.GG24051@opteron.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1130894101.24503.64.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 05:15:01PM -0800, Badari Pulavarty wrote:
> Here is the patch to support madvise(MADV_FREE) - which frees 
> up the given range of pages and truncates the underlying backing 
> store. This basically provides "punch hole into file" functionality.
> Currently it supports ONLY shmfs/tmpfs - where we have short term 
> need. Other filesystems return -ENOSYS.

MADV_FREE as a name isn't right if we return -ENOSYS for anonymoys
memory.

MADV_FREE in other OS works _only_ on anonymous memory and returns
-EINVAL if used on filebacked vmas. Infact we probably should rename our
MADV_DONTNEED to MADV_FREE.

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-5168/6mbb3hrde?a=view

	"This value cannot be used on mappings that have underlying file objects."

Our MADV_DONTNEED exactly matches the MADV_FREE semantics, and it seems
the MADV_DONTNEED of other OS isn't destructive like ours. Except our
MADV_DONTNEED also works on filebacked mappings but it's destructive
only on anonymous memory.


I thought Andrew suggested MADV_REMOVE for the new feature.

This feature didn't exist in other OS yet AFIK, so a new MADV_name for
it makes sense. I'm not completely against extending MADV_FREE but then we
shouldn't return -ENOSYS on anonymous memory and we should do the same
thing MADV_DONTNEED does on anonymous memory. Probably a new name is
safer to avoid confusion (think an application running MADV_FREE and
expecting -EINVAL when used on filebacked mappings).

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-02  1:43 UTC|newest]

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2005-11-02  1:15               ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_FREE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02  1:43                 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2005-11-02 15:49                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 16:12                   ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 19:54                     ` New bug in patch and existing Linux code - race with install_page() (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE)) Blaisorblade
2005-11-02 20:12                       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 20:45                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 21:36                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 21:55                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 22:02                           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-12  0:25                     ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Andrew Morton
2005-11-12  0:34                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-12  1:43                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-12  4:41                           ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-01-16 13:06                             ` differences between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 16:02                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-16 16:28                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 17:03                                   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-16 17:24                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 21:43                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-17  0:24                                         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-17  1:04                                           ` Nicholas Miell
2006-01-17 12:43                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-01-17 18:23                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-17 22:55                                                 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-01 18:11                                                 ` Samuel Thibault
2006-01-17 19:06                                               ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-01-17  1:06                               ` Blaisorblade
2006-01-17  1:33                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-12  0:34                     ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Andrew Morton

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