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From: Roman Kagan <rkagan@sw.ru>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Duncan Sands <duncan.sands@math.u-psud.fr>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, usbatm@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH]  Eagle and ADI 930 usb adsl modem driver
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:46:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051102104617.GA2098@panda.sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1130850242.21212.29.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>

On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 01:04:02PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 13:40 +0100, Duncan Sands wrote:
> > this code looks like a 'orrible hack to work around a common problem
> > with USB modem's of this type: if the modem is plugged in while the
> > system boots, the driver may look for firmware before the filesystem
> > holding the firmware is mounted; I guess the delay usually gives
> > the filesystem enough time to be mounted.  I'm told that the correct
> > solution is to stick the firmware in an initramfs as well. 
> 
> Why can't we request the firmware again when the device is first used,
> if it wasn't present when the driver was first loaded?

Because the firmware loading can take long, and apps may legitimately
give up opening the device after a timeout.

Besides, it doesn't look logical.  An uninitialized device is not
particularly useful for anything but initialization.  You don't create,
say, a network device for your ethernet card until you're finished with
its PCI setup, do you?

I think the async firmware loading can do the job nicely, in a generic
manner.  BTW the usbatm drivers do it already (wasn't it you who
implemented it? :), long before request_firmware_nowait() was available.
So it's only a matter of tools adjusting, which seems to be going on.

Roman.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-02 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-29 22:37 [PATCH] Eagle and ADI 930 usb adsl modem driver matthieu castet
2005-10-31 23:58 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-01 12:40   ` Duncan Sands
2005-11-01 13:04     ` David Woodhouse
2005-11-01 13:12       ` Marco d'Itri
2005-11-02  7:42       ` Duncan Sands
2005-11-02  7:45         ` David Woodhouse
2005-11-02  8:02           ` Duncan Sands
2005-11-02 10:46       ` Roman Kagan [this message]
2005-11-02 11:01         ` Duncan Sands
2005-11-01 13:49     ` matthieu castet
2005-11-02  5:29       ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-02 22:27         ` Greg KH
2005-11-02  7:45       ` Duncan Sands
2005-11-01 14:08   ` matthieu castet
2005-11-02  5:34     ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-02  7:47     ` Duncan Sands
2005-11-01 22:45 ` Greg KH
2005-11-02  7:54   ` Duncan Sands
2005-11-02  8:03     ` Greg KH
2005-11-02  8:45       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2005-11-02  8:52         ` Duncan Sands
2005-11-02 21:39           ` Greg KH
2005-11-02 21:37         ` Greg KH
2005-11-02 15:56   ` Alan Stern
2005-11-02 20:15   ` matthieu castet
2005-11-02 21:18     ` matthieu castet
2005-11-07 17:47       ` Greg KH
2005-11-06 18:44     ` matthieu castet
2005-11-07 17:47       ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 17:46     ` Greg KH
2005-11-07 18:47       ` matthieu castet
2005-11-07 22:27       ` matthieu castet
2005-11-07 23:02         ` matthieu castet

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