From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
andy@thermo.lanl.gov, mbligh@mbligh.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
arjan@infradead.org, arjanv@infradead.org, kravetz@us.ibm.com,
lhms <lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
mel@csn.ul.ie, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Lhms-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Fragmentation Avoidance V19
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:20:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051107122009.GD3609@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1131361258.5976.53.camel@localhost>
* Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 09:00 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> > > So remappable kernels are certainly doable, they just have more
> > > fundamental problems than remappable user space _ever_ has. Both from
> > > a performance and from a complexity angle.
> >
> > furthermore, it doesnt bring us any closer to removable RAM. The problem
> > is still unsolvable (due to the 'how to do you find live pointers to fix
> > up' issue), even if the full kernel VM is 'mapped' at 4K granularity.
>
> I'm not sure I understand. If you're remapping, why do you have to
> find live and fix up live pointers? Are you talking about things that
> require fixed _physical_ addresses?
RAM removal, not RAM replacement. I explained all the variants in an
earlier email in this thread. "extending RAM" is relatively easy.
"replacing RAM" while doable, is probably undesirable. "removing RAM"
impossible.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-07 12:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 216+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-04 1:00 [Lhms-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Fragmentation Avoidance V19 Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 1:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 1:27 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 5:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 6:10 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 6:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 7:26 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 15:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 15:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-06 7:34 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-06 18:18 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-06 8:44 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-06 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-06 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 1:28 ` Best CPU chipset for Linux? (was: [Lhms-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Fragmentation Avoidance V19) John Stoffel
2005-11-07 2:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 3:19 ` John Stoffel
2005-11-07 8:00 ` [Lhms-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Fragmentation Avoidance V19 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-07 11:00 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-07 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-11-07 19:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-07 23:38 ` Joel Schopp
2005-11-13 2:30 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-14 1:58 ` Joel Schopp
2005-11-04 7:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-11-07 16:42 ` Adam Litke
2005-11-04 14:56 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 15:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 15:39 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 16:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 16:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 17:43 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 16:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 17:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 16:14 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-05 1:52 Seth, Rohit
2005-11-05 1:37 Seth, Rohit
2005-11-07 0:34 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-07 18:58 ` Adam Litke
2005-11-07 20:51 ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-07 20:55 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-07 20:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-07 21:20 ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-07 21:33 ` Adam Litke
2005-11-08 2:12 ` David Gibson
2005-11-07 21:11 ` Adam Litke
2005-11-07 21:31 ` Rohit Seth
2005-11-04 21:51 Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 17:56 Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 17:03 Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 17:51 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 20:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 21:04 ` Andy Nelson
2005-11-04 21:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-04 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-05 2:48 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-06 10:59 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 21:31 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-11-04 22:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-05 0:07 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-06 1:30 ` Zan Lynx
2005-11-06 2:25 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-04 15:19 Andy Nelson
2005-10-30 18:33 Mel Gorman
2005-10-31 5:57 ` [Lhms-devel] " Mike Kravetz
2005-10-31 6:37 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-31 7:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 7:11 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-31 16:19 ` Mel Gorman
2005-10-31 23:54 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-01 1:28 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
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[not found] ` <3660000.1130787652@flay>
2005-10-31 23:59 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-01 1:36 ` Mel Gorman
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2005-11-01 15:25 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-01 15:33 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-01 16:57 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 17:00 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 18:58 ` Rob Landley
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0511010137020.29390@skynet>
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[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0511011014060.14884@skynet>
2005-11-01 13:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 14:10 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-01 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 14:49 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-01 15:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 15:22 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <20051102084946.GA3930@elte.hu>
[not found] ` <436880B8.1050207@yahoo.com.au>
2005-11-02 9:32 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 9:48 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 10:54 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 15:02 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 3:21 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-03 15:36 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 15:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-03 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 15:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 16:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-03 16:27 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 16:52 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 17:48 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-03 17:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 17:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-03 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 18:17 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 18:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 22:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 22:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 23:01 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 0:58 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 1:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-04 1:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-11-04 1:22 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 1:48 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-04 1:59 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 2:35 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-04 1:26 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 21:11 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 20:00 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-03 20:46 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 18:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 22:37 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-03 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-03 23:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 0:42 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-04 4:39 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 16:22 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-03 15:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-01 16:48 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2005-11-01 16:59 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2005-11-01 17:19 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 0:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2005-11-02 11:22 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 18:06 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-11-02 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 7:46 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-02 8:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 9:12 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-02 9:37 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 10:17 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-02 23:47 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 4:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-03 6:07 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 7:34 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-03 17:54 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 20:13 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-03 16:35 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-03 16:23 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-03 18:27 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-03 18:49 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-04 4:52 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 5:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 5:48 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 6:42 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 7:10 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 7:45 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 8:02 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 9:52 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-04 15:27 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 15:19 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-04 17:38 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-04 6:16 ` Bron Nelson
2005-11-02 10:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 11:04 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-02 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-02 12:42 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 15:02 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-11-03 0:10 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-02 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 0:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 7:42 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-02 8:24 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 8:33 ` Yasunori Goto
2005-11-02 8:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 14:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 23:28 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-03 5:26 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-03 5:41 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 14:41 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 14:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 15:23 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-01 18:33 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 19:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-01 14:50 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-01 15:24 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 5:11 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-01 18:23 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 20:31 ` Joel Schopp
2005-11-01 20:59 ` Joel Schopp
2005-11-02 1:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 1:41 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 2:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 2:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 2:49 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 4:39 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 5:09 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 5:14 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02 6:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2005-11-02 10:15 ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-02 7:19 ` Yasunori Goto
2005-11-02 11:48 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 11:41 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 11:37 ` Mel Gorman
2005-11-02 15:11 ` Mel Gorman
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