From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: ganzinger@mvista.com, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Calibration issues with USB disc present.
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:05:03 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051112050502.GC27700@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1131746228.2542.11.camel@cog.beaverton.ibm.com>
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 01:57:07PM -0800, john stultz wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 13:37 -0800, George Anzinger wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > Have you run into this. One of the USB disc controllers has the ability to boot the system,
> > however, it needs SMM code to do this. This SMM code, somehow, causes SMI interrupts (which are
> > higher priority than NMI interrutps and not maskable) which it needs to do its thing.
> >
> > Problem is that if one of these occurs while calibrating the TSC or the delay code, it can cause a
> > wrong result. We have seen both a too long and a too short result (depending on where the interrut
> > happens).
> >
> > They have found the root cause of TSC calibration problem.
> > Now they ask for the fix or workaround.
> >
> > That is the BIOS is periodically interrupted by USB controller and the CPU
> > waits during the processing of these interrupts.
> > Their experiments say the interrupt interval is 260mSec and the BIOS needs
> > 150uSec - 200uSec for processing.
> > It is proved that the problem doesn't reproduce by masking such SMI in BIOS.
> > They say SMI is for BIOS emulation for connecting legacy devices to USB.
> > Without such an emulation it's impossible to boot from USB-FD for instance,
> > they say too.
>
> Hmmm. I haven't heard of this issue specifically, but yes, I'm quite
> familiar with the pain BIOS SMIs can cause and I'm not surprised that it
> would affect the TSC/delay calibration code.
>
> Is this still an issue w/ 2.6.14? I know the new TSC based delay
> calibration code is supposed to be SMI resilient, but I haven't really
> played with it closely.
>
> Not sure what the best method to move forward would be. I suspect
> disabling the SMI code early in boot (I thought the usb legacy handoff
> stuff already did this?) would help. Then the actual Linux USB drivers
> can take over before we switch from the initrd to the root filesystem.
>
> Greg, do you have a suggestion?
I only ever saw this when people forgot to load the USB drivers. Once
the kernel took over USB support, there was no problem (if there was,
that's a BIOS bug.) The handoff code in 2.6.14 should help a lot with
this too.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-12 5:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-11 21:37 Calibration issues with USB disc present George Anzinger
2005-11-11 21:57 ` john stultz
2005-11-12 5:05 ` Greg KH [this message]
2005-11-12 16:06 ` George Anzinger
2005-11-12 21:33 ` Greg KH
2005-11-14 18:56 ` George Anzinger
2005-11-14 18:49 ` Greg KH
2005-11-14 19:46 ` Brad Campbell
2005-11-14 19:43 ` Greg KH
2005-11-14 19:58 ` john stultz
2005-11-14 21:52 ` George Anzinger
2005-11-17 0:03 ` Max Krasnyansky
2005-11-17 0:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 17:43 ` Max Krasnyansky
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