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From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, frankeh@watson.ibm.com,
	haveblue@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:36:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051114153649.75e265e7.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051114212341.724084000@sergelap>

How about adding the accessor routines in the first patch (still
referencing task->pid), then doing all the changes as you did, then
renaming task->pid to task->__pid and updating the accessor to that
change, in the last patch?  Then it would build all the way through.

Serge wrote:
> The resulting object code seems to be identical in most cases, and is
> actually shorter in cases where current->pid is used twice in a row,
> as it does not dereference task-> twice.

You lost me here.  Why does using these accessor routines avoid the
second reference?

Have you crosstool'd built this for most arch's?  I could imagine
some piece of code having a local or other struct variable named 'pid'
that would be broken by a mistake in this change.  This could be so
whether the change was done by a script, or by hand.  Probably need
to test 'allyesconfig' too.

> Note that this does not change the kernel's
> internal idea of pids, only what users see.

How can that be?  Doesn't it run all accesses to the task->pid
field through the accessor, regardless of whether it's something
the user will see, or something used within the kernel?

How about other fields holding a pid, such as (one I happen to know
about) kernel/cpuset.c marker_pid?  Grep for "pid_t" in include/linux
for other such possible fields.  What about other kerel-user interfaces
that deal with pids such as fcntl, msgctl, sched_setaffinity, semop,
shmctl, sigaction, ...

How do you propose to synchronize incoming pid's with these potentially
modified displayed pids?  There many invocations of find_task_by_pid()
in the kernel, typically converting a user provided pid into a task
struct.  If doing "kill(getpid(), 1)" in user code didn't sighup
myself, that would be uncool.

How do you intend to use these accessor routines in order to help solve
the problems with checkpoint/restart?

-- 
                  I won't rest till it's the best ...
                  Programmer, Linux Scalability
                  Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.925.600.0401

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-14 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-14 21:23 [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 01/13] Change pid accesses: drivers Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 02/13] Change pid accesses: most archs Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 03/13] Change pid accesses: filesystems Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 04/13] Change pid accesses: include/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 05/13] Change pid accesses: ipc Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 06/13] Change pid accesses: kernel/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 07/13] Change pid accesses: lib/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 08/13] Change pid accesses: mm/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 09/13] Change pid accesses: net/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 10/13] Change pid accesses: security/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 11/13] Change pid accesses: sound/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 12/13] Change pid accesses: ia64 and mips Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 23:08   ` Keith Owens
2005-11-16 11:58     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-16 13:53     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 13/13] Define new task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 23:36 ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2005-11-15  1:01   ` [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce " Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  1:35     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  1:51     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  2:29       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  3:37         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  5:15           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  6:35             ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  8:11               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  9:06                 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 10:07                   ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 18:10                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 11:59                   ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 13:32                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 14:37                     ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 18:39                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 18:54                         ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 19:00                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 19:17                     ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 22:11                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 23:15                       ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-15 23:28                         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 16:47             ` Greg KH
2005-11-15 17:08               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 17:33               ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15  5:51   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-13 15:22     ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 19:36       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-16 20:36         ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 20:48           ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-19 23:30             ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 22:38               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 14:53                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-20 23:29               ` Nix
2005-11-16 21:07           ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-16 20:24       ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 13:34   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 11:17 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 12:01   ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 19:21 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 19:41   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 20:30     ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 21:05       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 22:43         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 22:55       ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-16  1:12         ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-07 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 17:47   ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 17:55     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 18:09       ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 19:00         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 19:42           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 22:13           ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:20             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-12 10:55               ` Dave Airlie
2005-12-19 14:04                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 19:19     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 21:40       ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:17         ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-12-14 15:23           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-14 13:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-14 16:29               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 22:31           ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:51             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-08  5:42             ` Jeff Dike
2005-12-08 10:09             ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-07 22:17       ` Cedric Le Goater
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-16  2:24 Hua Zhong (hzhong)
2005-11-16 17:52 ` Bernard Blackham

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