From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, frankeh@watson.ibm.com,
haveblue@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:51:40 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051114175140.06c5493a.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051115010155.GA3792@IBM-BWN8ZTBWAO1>
Serge wrote:
> But when one of the
> processes looks for process 10, task_vpid_to_pid(current, 10) will return
> the real pid for the vpid 10 in current's pidspace.
So a "kill -1 10" will mean different things, depending on the pidspace
that the kill is running in. And pid's passed about between user
tasks as if they were usable system-wide are now aliased by their
invisible pidspace.
Yuck. Such virtualizations usually have a much harder time addressing
the last 10% of situations than they did the easy 90%.
How about instead having a way to put the pid's of checkpointed tasks
in deep freeze, saving them for reuse when the task restarts?
System calls that operate on pid values could error out with some
new errno, -EFROZEN or some such.
This would seem far less invasive. Not just less invasive of the code,
but more importantly, not introducing some never entirely realizable
semantic change to the scope of pids.
--
I won't rest till it's the best ...
Programmer, Linux Scalability
Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.925.600.0401
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Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-14 21:23 [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 01/13] Change pid accesses: drivers Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 02/13] Change pid accesses: most archs Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 03/13] Change pid accesses: filesystems Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 04/13] Change pid accesses: include/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 05/13] Change pid accesses: ipc Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 06/13] Change pid accesses: kernel/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 07/13] Change pid accesses: lib/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 08/13] Change pid accesses: mm/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 09/13] Change pid accesses: net/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 10/13] Change pid accesses: security/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 11/13] Change pid accesses: sound/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 12/13] Change pid accesses: ia64 and mips Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 23:08 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-16 11:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-16 13:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 13/13] Define new task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 23:36 ` [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce " Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 1:01 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 1:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 1:51 ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2005-11-15 2:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 3:37 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 5:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 6:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 8:11 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 9:06 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 10:07 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 18:10 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 11:59 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 13:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 14:37 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 18:39 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 18:54 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 19:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 19:17 ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 22:11 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 23:15 ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-15 23:28 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 16:47 ` Greg KH
2005-11-15 17:08 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 17:33 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 5:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-13 15:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 19:36 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-16 20:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 20:48 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-19 23:30 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 22:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 14:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-20 23:29 ` Nix
2005-11-16 21:07 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-16 20:24 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 13:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 11:17 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 12:01 ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 19:21 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 19:41 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 20:30 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 21:05 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 22:43 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 22:55 ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-16 1:12 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-07 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 17:47 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 17:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 18:09 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 19:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 22:13 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-12 10:55 ` Dave Airlie
2005-12-19 14:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 21:40 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-12-14 15:23 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-14 13:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-14 16:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 22:31 ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-08 5:42 ` Jeff Dike
2005-12-08 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-07 22:17 ` Cedric Le Goater
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2005-11-16 2:24 Hua Zhong (hzhong)
2005-11-16 17:52 ` Bernard Blackham
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