From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Gross, Mark" <mark.gross@intel.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:44:29 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051116164429.GA5630@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F760B14C9561B941B89469F59BA3A8470BDD12EB@orsmsx401.amr.corp.intel.com>
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 08:10:19AM -0800, Gross, Mark wrote:
> I worry that this is just adding more thrash to a historically unstable
> implementation. How long do we users have to wait for a swsusp
> implementation where we don't have to worry about breaking from one
> kernel release to the next?
Never, you are hereby consigned to always have a broken swsusp
implementation on your machines.
There, feel better? Or perhaps you could join in and help with the
current effort to make things better...
> I agree with this post http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/15/125 and note that
> making too large of a change thrashes the users a lot and if it doesn't
> solve a real problem or enable something critical, why make the changes?
Ok, so you are happy with what we currently have in the kernel tree
today? Great, use that, I know it works for me and I'm happy with it...
Please, everyone realize that Nigel's code is not going to be merged
into mainline as it is today. He knows it, and everyone else involved
knows it. Nigel also knows the proper procedure for getting his changes
into mainline, if he so desires, as we all sat in a room last July and
discussed this (lwn.net has a summary somewhere about it too...)
So, here's Pavel trying to make things better and people are complaining
about it. Argue that the technical points are invalid (like Dave did.)
But don't just sit around and kvetch, that doesn't help out anyone.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-16 17:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-16 16:10 [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp Gross, Mark
2005-11-16 16:44 ` Greg KH [this message]
2005-11-16 20:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:05 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-16 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-17 17:02 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 19:57 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:12 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 20:20 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:37 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 20:46 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:59 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 20:54 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 21:01 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 21:06 ` Chris Wright
2005-11-17 21:14 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 21:18 ` Chris Wright
2005-11-17 21:45 ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-17 21:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-11-17 21:16 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:47 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:50 ` software mixing [was Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp] Lee Revell
2005-11-16 22:10 ` [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp Greg KH
2005-11-16 21:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-17 7:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-16 19:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-17 16:54 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 16:44 ` Greg KH
2005-11-17 17:03 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-11-17 17:31 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 20:15 ` Jacek Kawa
2005-11-17 21:56 ` Greg KH
2005-11-18 17:41 ` Jacek Kawa
2005-11-18 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-17 18:50 Starikovskiy, Alexey Y
2005-11-15 21:29 Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 21:32 ` [linux-pm] " Greg KH
2005-11-15 22:03 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 22:25 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15 23:32 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 23:40 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-16 8:56 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-16 4:35 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-11-16 6:14 ` Greg KH
2005-11-16 6:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 16:50 ` Greg KH
2005-11-16 19:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 21:35 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:47 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-23 10:16 ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-11-23 12:02 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-19 9:32 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-19 23:51 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-18 19:36 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-18 21:18 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-18 21:20 ` Greg KH
2005-11-19 23:43 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 21:48 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-20 22:09 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-21 11:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-21 14:19 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-18 21:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-18 22:07 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-19 4:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-11-19 8:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-18 23:34 ` Pavel Machek
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