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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	"K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	pluto@agmk.net, john cooper <john.cooper@timesys.com>,
	Benedikt Spranger <bene@linutronix.de>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
	Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.14-rt13
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 08:45:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051119074503.GA12551@midnight.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <437E8DC8.4070101@mvista.com>

On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 06:28:24PM -0800, George Anzinger wrote:

> >There are many mechanisms to keep time:
> >
> >1) RTC: 0.5 sec resolution, interrupts
> >2) PIT: takes ages to read, overflows at each timer interrupt
> >3) PMTMR: takes ages to read, overflows in approx 4 seconds, no interrupt
> 
> The PMTMR can be read from user space (if you can find it).  See the 
> "iopl" man page.  It is an I/O access and so is slow, but you can read 
> it.

Yes, however this must be limited to a small number of privileged
applications - iopl() is only available to CAP_SYS_RAWIO IIRC,
and thus it's not suitable for general use.

> Finding it is another matter.  It does not have a fixed address (i.e. 
> it differs from machine to machine, but is constant on any given 
> machine).  The boot code roots it out of an info block put in memory 
> by the BIOS.  I suppose one could put a printk in the boot code to 
> disclose it...

There is really no reason to do that, since the time to read it (~1200
ns) is much less than the time to enter the kernel (less than 200 ns),
so gettimeofday() is definitely easier to use and also doesn't overflow.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-19  7:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-15  9:08 2.6.14-rt13 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-15 16:36 ` 2.6.14-rt13 Mark Knecht
2005-11-15 19:57   ` 2.6.14-rt13 Paul E. McKenney
2005-11-16  3:48 ` 2.6.14-rt13 K.R. Foley
2005-11-16  8:40   ` 2.6.14-rt13 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-16 17:02     ` 2.6.14-rt13 Paul E. McKenney
2005-11-18 18:02 ` 2.6.14-rt13 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-18 21:54   ` 2.6.14-rt13 Lee Revell
2005-11-18 22:05     ` 2.6.14-rt13 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-18 22:07       ` 2.6.14-rt13 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-18 22:15         ` 2.6.14-rt13 Lee Revell
2005-11-18 22:25           ` 2.6.14-rt13 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-18 23:36             ` 2.6.14-rt13 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-18 23:57               ` 2.6.14-rt13 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-18 22:41         ` 2.6.14-rt13 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-19  2:39           ` 2.6.14-rt13 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-24 15:07             ` 2.6.14-rt13 Ingo Molnar
2005-11-24 15:21               ` 2.6.14-rt13 Steven Rostedt
2005-11-25 20:56               ` [RFC][PATCH] Runtime switching to idle_poll (was: Re: 2.6.14-rt13) Steven Rostedt
2005-11-26 13:05                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-29  2:48                   ` [RFC][PATCH] Runtime switching of the idle function [take 2] Steven Rostedt
2005-11-29  3:02                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-29  3:42                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-29  4:01                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-29  6:44                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-29  6:55                             ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-29 18:05                             ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 14:19                               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-29 14:50                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 15:42                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-02  1:27                               ` Max Krasnyansky
2005-12-02  1:45                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-03  2:17                                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2005-11-29  4:22                         ` john stultz
2005-11-29 14:22                           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-29 13:08                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-18 15:26                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-18 22:13       ` 2.6.14-rt13 Lee Revell
2005-11-18 22:32         ` 2.6.14-rt13 Vojtech Pavlik
2005-11-19  2:28           ` 2.6.14-rt13 George Anzinger
2005-11-19  7:45             ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2005-11-19 18:27               ` 2.6.14-rt13 Lee Revell
2005-11-21 21:32 ` 2.6.14-rt13 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-21 21:41   ` 2.6.14-rt13 john stultz
     [not found]   ` <20051121221511.GA7255@elte.hu>
2005-11-21 22:19     ` test time-warps [was: Re: 2.6.14-rt13] Ingo Molnar
2005-11-21 23:08       ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-21 23:38       ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-21 23:41       ` john stultz
2005-11-22  1:31         ` Lee Revell
2005-11-22  1:15       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-22 11:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-22 17:49           ` Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
2005-11-22 18:01             ` Christopher Friesen
2005-11-22 18:22               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-11-22 20:52                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-11-22 11:19   ` 2.6.14-rt13 Ingo Molnar

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