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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: Ken Moffat <zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com>,
	Alexander Clouter <alex@digriz.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	blaisorblade@yahoo.it, davej@codemonkey.org.uk
Subject: Re: [patch 1/1] cpufreq_conservative/ondemand: invert meaning of 'ignore nice'
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:31:44 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511221331.45601.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051122022215.GB1288@redhat.com>

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:22 pm, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 01:21:18AM +0000, Ken Moffat wrote:
>  > On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Alexander Clouter wrote:
>  > >The use of the 'ignore_nice' sysfs file is confusing to anyone using
>  > > it. This
>  > >removes the sysfs file 'ignore_nice' and in its place creates a
>  > >'ignore_nice_load' entry which defaults to '1'; meaning nice'd
>  > > processes are
>  > >not counted towards the 'business' calculation.
>  > >
>  > >WARNING: this obvious breaks any userland tools that expected
>  > > ignore_nice' to
>  > >exist, to draw attention to this fact it was concluded on the mailing
>  > > list that the entry should be removed altogether so the userland app
>  > > breaks and so
>  > >the author can build simple to detect workaround.  Having said that it
>  > >seems
>  > >currently very few tools even make use of this functionality; all I
>  > > could find was a Gentoo Wiki entry.
>  > >
>  > >Signed-off-by: Alexander Clouter <alex-kernel@digriz.org.uk>
>  >
>  >  Great.  I get to rewrite my initscript for the ondemand governor to
>  > test for yet another kernel version, and write a 0 to yet another sysfs
>  > file, just so that any compile I start in an xterm on my desktop box can
>  > make the processor work for its living.
>  >
>  >  Just what have you cpufreq guys got against nice'd processes ?  It's
>  > enough to drive a man to powernowd ;)
>
> The opinion on this one started out with everyone saying "Yeah,
> this is dumb, and should have changed". Now that the change appears
> in a mergable patch, the opinion seems to have swung the other way.
>
> I'm seriously rethinking this change, as no matter what we do,
> we're going to make some people unhappy, so changing the status quo
> seems ultimately pointless.

Eh? I thought he was agreeing with niced processes running full speed but that 
he misunderstood that that was the new default. Oh well I should have just 
shut up.

Con

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22  2:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-21 18:17 [patch 1/1] cpufreq_conservative/ondemand: invert meaning of 'ignore nice' Alexander Clouter
2005-11-22  1:21 ` Ken Moffat
2005-11-22  2:22   ` Dave Jones
2005-11-22  2:31     ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2005-11-22 11:43       ` Ken Moffat
2005-11-22  8:52   ` Alexander Clouter
2005-11-22 11:38     ` Ken Moffat
2005-11-23  9:46 ` Andrew Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-12  3:30 Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2005-11-10 17:00 Alexander Clouter
2005-11-10 23:12 ` Con Kolivas
2005-11-11  9:09   ` Alexander Clouter
2005-11-10 15:11 Alexander Clouter
2005-11-10 15:48 ` Con Kolivas
2005-11-10 15:54   ` Alexander Clouter
2005-11-13 19:59   ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-18 12:07   ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-11-21 15:29 ` Dave Jones

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