From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030328AbVKWG1F (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:27:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030329AbVKWG1F (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:27:05 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:7046 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030328AbVKWG1C (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:27:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:26:45 -0500 From: Dave Jones To: Harald Dunkel Cc: Alan Cox , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch Message-ID: <20051123062645.GB1481@redhat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Jones , Harald Dunkel , Alan Cox , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20051121225303.GA19212@kroah.com> <20051122175017.GA10783@kroah.com> <43839C2E.3030904@t-online.de> <1132702803.20233.95.camel@localhost.localdomain> <438406EA.1050705@t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <438406EA.1050705@t-online.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 07:06:34AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Talking about the other side: Some months ago NVidia dropped > support for some old (3 yrs, AFAIR) graphics cards in their > proprietary driver. They could have considered to release the > sources for this "old stuff" instead. The age of the code/hardware is irrelevant. The big problem these folks have is the fear that they're infringing on the other guys patents. They have relatively little to gain from such a goodwill gesture, and a hell of a lot to lose. iirc, 3dfx disappeared overnight due to legal battles that went.. "You lose, pay us lots of money, or let us buy you out and own your IP." Even non-competitive vendors like Matrox have now gone binary-only, likely due to the same concerns (It for sure isn't to hide some super secret performance edge). Dave