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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@hpl.hp.com>,
	Ray Bryant <raybry@mpdtxmail.amd.com>,
	discuss@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	perfctr-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Perfctr-devel] Re: Enabling RDPMC in user space by default
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:07:04 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051129230704.GA9659@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051129224346.GS19515@wotan.suse.de>

On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 11:43:47PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > Well, RDPMC isn't defined at all. You're assuming that future processor
> > revisions will have the same or substantially similar PerfCtrs as
> > current processors, and nothing guarantees that at all.
> 
> Point, but i guess it is reasonable to assume that future x85 CPUs
> will have cycle counter perfctrs.  I cannot imagine anybody dropping
> such a basic facility.

It need not necessarily remain configurable to be in PMC 0 however.
Nor do the the PMC MSRs have to remain fixed..

-- 
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				| _way_ _around_!
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-29 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-29 15:15 Enabling RDPMC in user space by default Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 16:04 ` Mikael Pettersson
2005-11-29 16:17   ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 16:56 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-29 16:15   ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 18:09   ` [Perfctr-devel] " Stephane Eranian
2005-11-29 18:13     ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 18:29       ` John Reiser
2005-11-29 18:38         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 19:05         ` Lee Revell
2005-11-29 21:43       ` Nicholas Miell
2005-11-29 21:52         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 22:19           ` Stephane Eranian
2005-11-29 22:51             ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2005-11-30 16:01               ` Stephane Eranian
2005-11-30 16:23                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-01 23:41                   ` Stephane Eranian
2005-12-02  0:07                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-02  7:09                       ` Stephane Eranian
2005-12-02 11:36                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 22:33           ` Nicholas Miell
2005-11-29 22:43             ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 23:02               ` Nicholas Miell
2005-11-29 23:17                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 23:29                   ` Nicholas Miell
2005-11-29 23:39                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 23:56                       ` David Gibson
2005-11-30  0:34                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-30  0:52                           ` David Gibson
2005-11-30  1:04                             ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2005-11-30  0:50                       ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-30  0:38                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-30  7:38                     ` Stephane Eranian
2005-11-30  8:22                       ` Nicholas Miell
2005-11-30 15:48                         ` Stephane Eranian
2005-11-29 23:07               ` David Gibson [this message]
2005-11-29 23:18                 ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 23:28               ` Bernd Schmidt
2005-11-29 23:46                 ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2005-11-30  2:39 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-11-30  3:38   ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-01  4:08     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-12-01 13:05       ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-01 17:01         ` Zwane Mwaikambo

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