From: Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, christoph@lameter.com,
riel@redhat.com, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, npiggin@suse.de,
andrea@suse.de, magnus.damm@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/12] mm: supporting variables and functions for balanced zone aging
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 09:19:24 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051202011924.GA3516@mail.ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051201150349.3538638e.akpm@osdl.org>
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 03:03:49PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > ZONE_DMA is out of whack. It shouldn't be, and I'm not aware of anyone
> > > getting in and working out why. I certainly wouldn't want to go and add
> > > all this stuff without having a good understanding of _why_ it's out of
> > > whack. Perhaps it's just some silly bug, like the thing I pointed at in
> > > the previous email.
> >
> > I think that the problem is caused by the interaction between
> > the way reclaiming is quantified and parallel allocators.
>
> Could be. But what about the bug which I think is there? That'll cause
> overscanning of the DMA zone.
Take for example these numbers:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
active/inactive sizes on 2.6.14-1-k7-smp:
43/1000 = 116 / 2645
819/1000 = 54023 / 65881
active/inactive scan rates:
dma 480/1000 = 31364 / (58377 + 6963)
normal 985/1000 = 719219 / (645051 + 84579)
high 0/1000 = 0 / (0 + 0)
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 503 497 6 0 0 328
-/+ buffers/cache: 168 335
Swap: 127 2 125
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cold-page-scan-rate = K * (direct-reclaim-count * direct-scan-prob +
kswapd-reclaim-count * kswapd-scan-prob) * shrink-zone-prob
(direct-reclaim-count : kswapd-reclaim-count) depends on memory pressure.
Here it is
DMA: 8 = 58377 / 6963
Normal: 7 = 645051 / 84579
(direct-scan-prob) is roughly equal for all zones.
(kswapd-scan-prob) is expected to be equal too.
So the equation can be simplified to:
cold-page-scan-rate ~= C * shrink-zone-prob
It depends largely on the shrink_zone() function:
843 zone->nr_scan_inactive += (zone->nr_inactive >> sc->priority) + 1;
844 nr_inactive = zone->nr_scan_inactive;
845 if (nr_inactive >= sc->swap_cluster_max)
846 zone->nr_scan_inactive = 0;
847 else
848 nr_inactive = 0;
849
850 sc->nr_to_reclaim = sc->swap_cluster_max;
851
852 while (nr_active || nr_inactive) {
//...
860 if (nr_inactive) {
861 sc->nr_to_scan = min(nr_inactive,
862 (unsigned long)sc->swap_cluster_max);
863 nr_inactive -= sc->nr_to_scan;
864 shrink_cache(zone, sc);
865 if (sc->nr_to_reclaim <= 0)
866 break;
867 }
868 }
Line 843 is the core of the scan balancing logic:
priority 12 11 10
On each call nr_scan_inactive is increased by:
DMA(2k pages) +1 +2 +3
Normal(64k pages) +17 +33 +65
Round it up to SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX=32, we get (scan batches/accumulate rounds):
DMA 1/32 1/16 2/11
Normal 2/2 2/1 3/1
DMA:Normal ratio 1:32 1:32 2:33
This keeps the scan rate roughly balanced(i.e. 1:32) in low vm pressure.
But lines 865-866 together with line 846 make most shrink_zone() invocations
only run one batch of scan. The numbers become:
DMA 1/32 1/16 1/11
Normal 1/2 1/1 1/1
DMA:Normal ratio 1:16 1:16 1:11
Now the scan ratio turns into something between 2:1 ~ 3:1 !
Another problem is that the equation in line 843 is quite coarse, 64k/127k
pages result in the same result, leading to a large variance range.
Thanks,
Wu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-02 1:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-01 10:18 [PATCH 00/12] Balancing the scan rate of major caches Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 01/12] vm: kswapd incmin Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:33 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-01 11:40 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 02/12] mm: supporting variables and functions for balanced zone aging Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-01 12:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 22:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-12-01 23:03 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-02 1:19 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2005-12-02 1:30 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-02 2:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-02 2:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-12-02 2:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-02 2:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-12-02 4:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-02 6:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-02 2:27 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-02 2:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-12-02 2:43 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-02 5:49 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-02 7:18 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-02 7:27 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-02 15:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-12-02 21:39 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-03 0:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-12-04 6:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-02 1:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-12-02 3:40 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 03/12] mm: balance zone aging in direct reclaim path Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 04/12] mm: balance zone aging in kswapd " Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 05/12] mm: balance slab aging Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 06/12] mm: balance active/inactive list scan rates Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 11:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 07/12] mm: remove unnecessary variable and loop Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 08/12] mm: remove swap_cluster_max from scan_control Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 09/12] mm: accumulate sc.nr_scanned/sc.nr_reclaimed Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 10/12] mm: merge sc.may_writepage and sc.may_swap into sc.flags Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 11/12] mm: add page reclaim debug traces Wu Fengguang
2005-12-01 10:18 ` [PATCH 12/12] mm: fix minor scan count bugs Wu Fengguang
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