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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: theonetruekenny@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: nfs unhappiness with memory pressure
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:36:31 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051206143631.08b4e8e6.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1133822367.8003.5.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
>
> Argh... Not sure entirely how to deal with that... We definitely don't
>  want the thing futzing around inside throttle_vm_writeout(), 'cos
>  writeout isn't going to happen while the socket blocks.
> 

As far as the core VM is concerned, these pages are really "dirty", only it
happens to be a different flavour of dirtiness.  So perhaps we should
continue to mark these pages as dirty and let NFS internally take care
of which end of the wire they're dirty at.

Presumably calling writepage() a second time won't be very useful.  Or will
it?  Perhaps when NFS sees writepage against a PageDirty && PageUnstable
page it can recognise that as a hint to kick off a server-side write.

>  ...OTOH, I'm not entirely sure we want to use GFP_ATOMIC and risk
>  bleeding the emergency pools dry: we also need those in order to receive
>  replies from the server.

You can use (GFP_ATOMIC & !__GFP_HIGH) to avoid draining emergency pools.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-06  3:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20051115224645.27832.qmail@web34103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
2005-11-15 23:47 ` mmap over nfs leads to excessive system load Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16  4:31   ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-11-16  6:05     ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16  7:45   ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-16 14:03     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 15:01       ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 17:44         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 18:00           ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-16 18:34             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 18:38               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-17 13:08                 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-11-16 19:09               ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-16 20:05                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 20:56                   ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 21:02                     ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 21:09                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 21:17                       ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 21:41                       ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 21:57                         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 22:04                           ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 22:39                           ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 23:06                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-17 15:40                               ` Chuck Lever
2005-11-17 16:56                                 ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-17 16:01                               ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-17 21:04                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-17 21:15                                   ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-18 16:55                                   ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-18 17:26                                   ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-18 21:57                                   ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-21 17:13                                   ` infinite loop? with mmap, nfs, pwrite, O_DIRECT Kenny Simpson
2005-11-21 17:49                                     ` Chuck Lever
2005-11-21 18:40                                       ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-21 20:39                                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-21 21:39                                           ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-21 22:42                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-21 23:14                                               ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-21 23:34                                               ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-21 23:58                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-22  0:09                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-22  0:18                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-22  0:25                                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-22  0:28                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-22  0:49                                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 20:04                                                           ` nfs unhappiness with memory pressure Kenny Simpson
2005-11-30 21:42                                                             ` Keith Mannthey
2005-11-30 22:18                                                               ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-01 14:49                                                               ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-05 18:01                                                             ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-05 19:44                                                               ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-05 20:14                                                                 ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-05 20:13                                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-05 20:33                                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-05 20:52                                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-05 21:18                                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-05 21:23                                                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-05 23:40                                                                         ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-06  0:48                                                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-05 21:51                                                                       ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-05 21:04                                                                   ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-05 22:39                                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-06  3:36                                                                       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-12-06  3:36                                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-06  4:40                                                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-06  5:42                                                                           ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-06 12:18                                                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-06 19:31                                                                         ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-06 15:51                                                                       ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-21 21:54                                           ` infinite loop? with mmap, nfs, pwrite, O_DIRECT Kenny Simpson
2005-11-21 20:12                                       ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-17 17:02                               ` mmap over nfs leads to excessive system load Chuck Lever
2005-11-17 17:07                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-18 19:59                               ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 21:31                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-16 21:49                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 22:10                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-16 22:23                         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 22:38                           ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 22:50                             ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-16 22:44                           ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-16 23:10                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-17  0:06                             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-17  0:25                               ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-17  0:28                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-17  0:38                                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-17  0:47                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-16 18:48           ` Kenny Simpson
2005-11-16 19:06           ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-06 13:40 nfs unhappiness with memory pressure Albert Herranz

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