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From: Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Jiri Benc <jbenc@suse.cz>,
	Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>,
	mbuesch@freenet.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de, NetDev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Broadcom 43xx first results
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:46:10 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051207071610.GC4361@rama.exocore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4395E0E3.4040601@pobox.com>

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On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 02:05:07PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Harald Welte wrote:
> >I also think that there is a lack of knowledge on the architecture of
> >802.11 low-level protocols and drivers among many people (including
> >myself) in the network community.  Only this way I can explain why there
> >are always people who claim that the kernel already has a 802.11
> >'stack'.
> 
> This last sentence, regardless of the source, is simply playing with words.

I don't think that having clear definitions of certain terms is playing
with words.  I don't neccessarily care which words are used, but it's
always useful to have common, well-defined terminology.

I also wouldn't call the TCP code a stack, if it hadn't all the state
engine in it.  

> We have 802.11 common code in the kernel, that several drivers are
> using.  

Yes.

> Future drivers should modify that common code to suit their
> needs, rather than dropping it and starting from scratch.

I did not state that it has to be replaced.  I'm much in favour of
gradual changes myself.

-- 
- Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>          	        http://gnumonks.org/
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-07  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-04 18:50 Broadcom 43xx first results mbuesch
2005-12-04 19:52 ` [Bcm43xx-dev] " Feyd
2005-12-04 19:58   ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05  5:50     ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-05  6:05       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-12-05 11:08       ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 14:19         ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-05 14:28           ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 14:41             ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-05 18:52             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:20               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 18:00 ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 18:14   ` Michael Renzmann
2005-12-05 18:24     ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-05 18:46     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 18:49       ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 18:54         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:11           ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-30 10:34             ` Rakotomandimby Mihamina
2005-12-06  7:17       ` Michael Renzmann
2005-12-05 18:38   ` Joseph Jezak
2005-12-05 18:55     ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:08       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 19:18         ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:53         ` Dave Jones
2005-12-05 20:09           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 15:10           ` Harald Welte
2005-12-06 19:05             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 20:53               ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-07  7:16               ` Harald Welte [this message]
2005-12-06 23:19             ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 23:45               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-07 13:34               ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-08 11:32                 ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-08 12:07         ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-08 12:12           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-08 13:03             ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 19:31         ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-05 19:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 20:11             ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06 15:09               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-06 16:43                 ` Ben Greear
2005-12-06 23:25                   ` David S. Miller
2005-12-06 19:24                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-06 15:04           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-08  0:00           ` Michael Wu
2005-12-08  1:05             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-05 20:23   ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 20:42     ` Jiri Benc
2005-12-06  9:26       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-06 10:23         ` Luc Saillard
2005-12-05 19:40 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 20:14   ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-05 20:35     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-05 20:40       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-05 20:40       ` Michael Buesch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-06 22:47 Jean Tourrilhes
2005-12-07  7:11 ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-07 19:16   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2005-12-07 19:47     ` Jouni Malinen
2005-12-07 19:05 ` Jean Tourrilhes

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