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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Reduce number of pointer derefs in various files (kernel/exit.c used as example)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:22:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051209182255.GQ8637@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200512090914.21436.oliver@neukum.org>

On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:14:21AM +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Freitag, 9. Dezember 2005 02:46 schrieb Matt Mackall:
> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 11:15:28PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Ohh, and before I forget, besides the fact that this should speed 
> > > > things up a little bit it also has the added benefit of reducing the 
> > > > size of the generated code. The original kernel/exit.o file was 19604 
> > > > bytes in size, the patched one is 19508 bytes in size.
> > > 
> > > nice. Just to underline your point, on x86, with gcc 4.0.2, i'm getting 
> > > this with your patch:
> > > 
> > >    text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
> > >   11077       0       0   11077    2b45 exit.o.orig
> > >   10997       0       0   10997    2af5 exit.o
> > > 
> > > so 80 bytes shaved off. I think such patches also increase readability.
> > 
> > Readability improved: good.
> > 37 lines of patch for 80-100 bytes saved: not so good.
> > 
> > So while this is a good style direction, I don't think it's worth the
> > churn. And unlike kzalloc and the like, this particular optimization
> > is perfectly doable by a compiler. So I'd rather wait for the compiler
> > to get smarter than change code for such modest improvements.
> 
> How can the compiler do it? If a function call is between two evaluations
> of a pointer chain, the compiler would have to make sure no pointer in
> the chain is touched. For the case of a computed function call, it is
> impossible in principle.

Excellent point. It'd require marking functions const, which might not
be a bad idea.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-09 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-06 22:02 [RFC][PATCH] Reduce number of pointer derefs in various files (kernel/exit.c used as example) Jesper Juhl
2005-12-06 22:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-09  1:46   ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-09  8:14     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-09 18:22       ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2005-12-09 10:29     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-09 18:34       ` Matt Mackall

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