From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Parag Warudkar <kernel-stuff@comcast.net>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] i386: always use 4k stacks
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 13:09:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051218120900.GA23349@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61D4A300-4967-4DC1-AD2C-765A3D2D9743@comcast.net>
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:03:39AM -0500, Parag Warudkar wrote:
>
> On Dec 17, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> >And in my experience, many stack problems don't come from code getting
> >more complex but from people allocating 1kB structs or arrays of
>
> And we catch this type of problems fairly easily in the patch review
> itself, even before accepting the code in mainline. Plus there is
> make checkstack to help find and fix any such issues, isn't it? So
> it's not like forcing the stack to 4Kb and making the offending code
> to crash is the best solution to force people to write code which
> plays nice with the stack.
4kB stacks are already an option for some time. There were some problems
in the beginning, but as far as we know we have have fixed all of them.
There are so many possible bugs people writing kernel code could
introduce bugs that cause crashes. The solution is not to add
workarounds for programming bugs at every possible place, but as the
code review and "make checkstack" before accepting code.
As a data point, my count of bug reports for problems with in-kernel
code with 4k stacks after Neil's patch went into -mm is still at 0.
> I think on i386 most people do fine with the 8Kb stack - whoever
> benefits from 4Kb stack, can always choose the 4Kb stack config
> option and recompile.
>
> Alternatively, default to 4Kb and let people choose 8Kb and recompile
> if that's what suits their workloads.
>...
There is no workload where 8kB suits better.
> My 2 cents.
>
> Parag
cu
Adrian
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2005-12-15 21:24 [2.6 patch] i386: always use 4k stacks Adrian Bunk
2005-12-15 22:00 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-15 20:42 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 22:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-15 21:07 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:14 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-15 21:46 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:26 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-15 22:04 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:36 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-12-16 0:08 ` Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:08:02 +0100
2005-12-15 22:51 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-16 0:57 ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-16 0:38 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-16 14:39 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-16 14:49 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-12-16 15:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 18:42 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-16 18:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-16 18:53 ` Brian Gerst
2005-12-16 19:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 19:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-16 18:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-17 0:16 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-19 9:40 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-16 19:26 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-16 21:08 ` David Lang
2005-12-16 21:35 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-19 9:02 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-16 0:37 ` Ray Lee
2005-12-19 8:55 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-15 23:15 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 0:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 0:50 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 2:56 ` Neil Brown
2005-12-16 3:06 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 12:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 19:03 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-19 0:45 ` Neil Brown
2005-12-19 1:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-19 11:40 ` Jörn Engel
2005-12-16 1:15 ` Nathan Scott
2005-12-16 1:37 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 1:49 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-12-16 14:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 13:10 ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-16 14:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 15:35 ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-16 15:49 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-16 16:23 ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-16 20:02 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-16 20:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 18:18 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-12-16 18:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 19:32 ` Mike Snitzer
2005-12-16 19:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 21:28 ` Mike Snitzer
2005-12-16 21:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 21:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 22:14 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-17 17:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-17 20:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-17 20:23 ` Paul Rolland
2005-12-17 20:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-17 20:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 2:35 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-18 5:03 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18 5:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-18 6:05 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18 15:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 15:59 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 11:09 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-19 16:22 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 17:43 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-19 19:10 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 19:27 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-19 20:17 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 20:34 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-20 1:24 ` Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:24:16 +0100
2005-12-20 14:28 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-20 17:56 ` David Lang
2005-12-20 18:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20 18:49 ` David Lang
2005-12-21 11:12 ` Sander
2005-12-21 20:03 ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-12-20 18:12 ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-12-20 18:12 ` Sean
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2005-12-20 12:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 14:35 ` Felix Oxley
2005-12-18 15:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 12:09 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2005-12-18 15:49 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18 15:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 16:04 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-16 15:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 16:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
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2005-12-16 17:17 ` Fwd: " Mike Snitzer
2005-12-16 19:59 ` Alan Cox
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2005-12-16 8:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
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2005-12-27 22:26 ` Michael Buesch
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2005-11-15 16:46 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
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2005-11-15 23:20 ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-11-16 15:30 ` Oliver Neukum
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2005-11-16 19:03 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-11-16 19:08 ` Andi Kleen
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2005-11-16 22:50 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2005-11-16 22:54 ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2005-11-17 0:28 ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-17 4:06 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-17 0:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-17 4:05 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-14 18:29 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-14 19:00 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-14 19:18 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-11-14 19:47 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-11-14 22:33 ` Alan Cox
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2005-11-15 15:12 ` Paulo Marques
2005-11-15 1:09 ` Alex Davis
2005-11-14 2:11 Adrian Bunk
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2005-11-14 10:20 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-11-14 10:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 10:39 ` Pierre Ossman
2005-11-14 11:11 ` Jens Axboe
2005-11-14 11:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 11:24 ` Jens Axboe
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2005-11-14 11:34 ` Jens Axboe
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