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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@infradead.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/15] Generic Mutex Subsystem
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:55:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051219165552.GA8635@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0512190744350.9001@gandalf.stny.rr.com>


* Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> > The numbers make me suspect that Ingo's mutexes are unfair too, but I've
> > not looked at the code yet.
> 
> Yes, Ingo's code does act like this unfairness.  Interesting also is 
> that Ingo's original code for his rt_mutexes was fair, and it killed 
> performance for high priority processes.  I introduced a "lock 
> stealing" algorithm that would check if the process trying to grab the 
> lock again was a higher priority then the one about to get it, and if 
> it was, it would "steal" the lock from it unfairly as you said.

yes, it's unfair - but stock semaphores are unfair too, so what i've 
measured is still a fair comparison of the two implementations.

lock stealing i've eliminated from this patch-queue, and i've moved the 
point of acquire to after the schedule(). (lock-stealing is only 
relevant for PI, where we always need to associate an owner with the 
lock, hence we pass ownership at the point of release.)

> Now, you are forgetting about PREEMPT.  Yes, on multiple CPUs, and 
> that is what Ingo is testing, to wait for the other CPU to schedule in 
> and run is probably not as bad as with PREEMPTION. (Ingo, did you have 
> preemption on in these tests?). [...]

no, CONFIG_PREEMPT was disabled in every test result i posted. (but i 
get similar results even with it enabled.)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-19 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-19  1:34 [patch 00/15] Generic Mutex Subsystem Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19  4:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-19  4:28   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-19  4:31     ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-19  6:24   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-19 12:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-19 16:55       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-12-19 15:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 19:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-19 19:25         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-12-19 19:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 16:42             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-10 10:28               ` Balbir Singh
2006-01-10 18:03                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-11  6:33                   ` Balbir Singh
2006-01-11  9:22                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-19 20:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 20:19             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-12-19 20:32             ` Russell King
2005-12-19 20:57               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 19:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 20:12           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-19 23:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-20  8:03             ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20  8:06               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20  8:21                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20  8:36                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20  8:48                     ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-19 16:22   ` Ingo Molnar

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